S1 Ep 6

[00:00:00] Speaker A: The best music from the 60s to today. [00:00:04] Speaker B: IPL radio. Welcome everybody to Talking Talk. It's our first, very first program today. And in the studio today, we're glad to have Joe Fafaro and his son from the XKXL XMXP Falcons of wa. And it's great to be on board. It's great to be involved with IPL radio. So welcome Joe. [00:00:33] Speaker A: Thanks for having us, Darren. This has, this is a great opportunity and a pleasure to be here. [00:00:38] Speaker B: Thanks. It's great. It's great having you both here today. It's our, like I said, it's our first show. Everybody's listening. We've got some great guests. We've got Adrian Wilson coming in later on today and Adrian's the, the man who's in charge of the Early Falcon, the 24th Early Falcon Nationals in Tasmania. So Adrian will be coming in in the next hour or so and he'll be talking about the early falcon Nationals in Tasmania. And then we've got Collectible Collector's Corner with Kerry Smith later in the afternoon. So to do, we'll just have a chat to Joe and talk about the XK XL XM XP Falcons of wa. So, Joe, how did the, the club start? [00:01:27] Speaker A: Well, the club's only been official, I guess this last six or 12 months, isn't it? Darren, you were, you were a great. [00:01:38] Speaker A: Inspiration to get that started when you moved over to wa. So that's, that's, I guess officially the length of time that the club's been registered. But the group, the Early Falcons of Western Australia, as it was previously known, was in, as it's informally known on Facebook at the moment, or has been for the last couple of years, was created a few years ago by a couple of guys, I think. Ben Linnane. Shout out to Ben Linnane. He created the page. But the great movers and shakers in the early falcon scene here in Western Australia were one of the best guys you'll ever come across. Those early falcons inside out. Back to front is the godfather of the early falcons in Western Australia, Mr. Rob Pufumi. [00:02:25] Speaker B: He. [00:02:27] Speaker A: I'm sure he won't like me giving him too much of a mention because he's a very humble guy. But his passion for early falcons was very infectious in those first couple of years and he was very supportive of the Facebook group and became a bit of a nucleus for people with early falcons in Western Australia to come together to have a network of suppliers and businesses that could support the restoration of the early falcons. Car clubs or car Scene it's probably been in the last, I'd say 10 years or so where the early Falcons have had a bit of a resurgence because with the price of other cars like the later model Falcons and the Holden's becoming so out of everyone's reach that the early Falcons and some of the older cars have become a bit more desirable and people are starting to. Able to, you know, as an entry into classic cars from a price point, be able to afford them, be able to work on them because they're cheap to get back on the road, they're cheap to work on and they're definitely seeing a bit of a resurgence and a great vehicle to own and drive. Really. [00:03:42] Speaker B: Yeah, that's great. I suppose. [00:03:47] Speaker B: The official club started in October last year and us, we've got 67 paid up members. [00:03:58] Speaker A: Yeah, it's fantastic, isn't it? [00:04:00] Speaker B: And they range from as far away as Broome to Exmouth. So that's the width, width and breadth of Western Australia. [00:04:12] Speaker A: Well, well, Exmouth is up north with Broome. [00:04:15] Speaker B: So you. [00:04:15] Speaker A: But we've got members down Esperance. [00:04:17] Speaker B: Esperance, that's correct. Esperance, Exmouth, Perth. I'm sort of still getting. [00:04:22] Speaker A: It's a big state. [00:04:23] Speaker B: My, my, my brain around how big and how wide Western Australia is. [00:04:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:31] Speaker B: And you know, we have a, we have an event in October. [00:04:37] Speaker B: That we have a, like a morning of early Falcons and last year we had 57 cars. [00:04:43] Speaker A: Sure did. [00:04:44] Speaker B: Which was an, which was an outstanding, amazing turnout which just blew everybody away. And the club's open. The club's got C4C which is the C4C. Cheaper registration. [00:05:00] Speaker A: Yep. [00:05:01] Speaker B: We've also got a 404 which is for original vehicles like you have Joe. Yes. And we'll get onto your specific car which there's a massive story about that and Talking talks about you and your car, you and your enthusiasm for your car. Car clubs. So reach out at Talking Talk. We do have a Facebook page if you'd like to send any questions through the Facebook page, that'd be great. And you know, the club has runs and it's great. Meeting. The first meeting I had with Rob, Rob's going, oh my, who's this guy? We heard this from Alvin. Don't know much about him but we all warmed to each other. The six people who are the founding fathers of the club with Rob, who's the president, Kevin, myself, yourself, Aaron. Aaron. Aaron Scott and David and Dave. So we all sat down and we all just discussed what they wanted to do. And with the, the Club. The club had very good bones here but it just needed a chef to make the cake. [00:06:21] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:06:22] Speaker B: And the cake is, is very, very solid. We've got a solid base of great members. The club, the club we don't meet but we're going to start having some runs. We've had a couple of runs already this year. We went to Mandurah for the Rod 1 run. We had another one to the Easter. No, it wasn't Easter, it was the Fremantle Bog run for cancer charities in March, in March and was gone to another couple of places and we're having the AGM later this month. And yeah, we've got our Facebook pages which is WA Falcons which is the, the communal Facebook page. We also have WA hardtop which is for XMXP hard tops 1964-66 and then we have the official club page which is the XKXL XM XP Falcons of WA Incorporated. And that's the page for the club members to gather information for events to be an official, to be an official club member. We welcome club members from all around Western Australia to join in on their Falcons and their, their pride and joy. [00:07:46] Speaker B: And have a great time. [00:07:50] Speaker B: Swap information, stories, places, where to buy, buy parts from and it's a great. [00:07:59] Speaker B: It'S a great investment in your future for your car and for your well being too because you know there's not many places that have a. [00:08:12] Speaker B: There'S not many clubs that have three or four Facebook pages, an official Facebook page, we send out emails and now the club. [00:08:21] Speaker B: We'Re very kindly on the IPL radio so that's great. So tell us about your car, Rob and Joe. Sorry Joe. And the story of your car. [00:08:36] Speaker A: Thanks Darren for asking. So. [00:08:40] Speaker A: My car, not a particularly. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Fancy or big ticket car but it's got a bit of a story to it. So it's a 1962 XL Ford Falcon station Wagon Deluxe which was bought brand new by my grandfather back in. [00:08:58] Speaker B: Early. [00:08:59] Speaker A: 1963, March 1963 from an old Ford dealership called Mortlock Brothers Ford in, in the city. And so it'd been in our family since that day and I acquired it myself like officially from my grandmother in 2013 or 14 and I started a full restoration in 2015 and I had a dream of restoring it to factory like the day that it rolled out of the factory floor and I spent a great deal of time. [00:09:36] Speaker A: Sort of researching it and I guess procuring hard to get parts and finding people to do the work and I was lucky enough, I had a pretty good experience to be honest, Dan, because you hear so many nightmare stories about people, you know, in doing their car restorations. But I was pretty lucky. I, I came across a great panel shop in Frank's Classic Garage down in Kelmscott and he helped me sort of get started and did all the panel and paint. It's beautiful. And then I sort of, at that stage it came to a bit of a grind because it's the finishing, you know, and putting it back together that takes the long time. [00:10:19] Speaker B: And. [00:10:22] Speaker A: At that stage I wasn't really on Facebook around sort of 2016, 2015, but I joined and started to get into the network of people and came across the early falcons of Western Australia. And that's when I first met Rob. Sort of around, yeah, it must have been around 2015 or 16. And. [00:10:43] Speaker A: He'S a super busy guy, as you know, and he's got a very busy auto electric business in Osbourn Park. But he was, he was very open and helpful and it became pretty clear from, from that day that he was the go to guy, the guy that knew, you know, everything about early falcons. Locally. There's a lot of people around the country, as you know, Darren, that, you know, especially in Melbourne and Sydney, they have a pretty, pretty big early falcon scene over there and you get a lot of your parts from the east coast. But here in Western Australia, Rob was extremely helpful and he kind of took me in and through a number of conversations we got the car to his workshop and over the next couple of years he helped me put it all back together and really understood my passion for wanting to restore the car to original and concourse condition. And it's a shame that you, you can't see pictures on, on the radio, but yeah, I'm pretty happy with the way the car was finished and I enjoyed driving it, although I haven't really driven it too much lately, you know, just with other things happening. But yeah, it's a pretty special car to me and I, and I, like I said earlier, it's not a car of significant monetary value, but sentimentally it's, it's very important to me. And yeah, I enjoy it a lot. [00:12:07] Speaker B: Yeah, the, the story that you told me that your, your father and your uncle and they went to see the car and they went to buy the car brand new. So in 1963 they bought this car brand new. [00:12:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:23] Speaker B: And it's been in the family and it's a family heirloom and it's part of the family fabric of your family. Yeah. And, and your parents had an orchard. And, you know, we're talking about the old days and just the story of buying it is family folklore and it's all part of, it's all part of being part of a family, being part of a club and everybody helps and everybody enjoys seeing a car like that. And a couple of years ago you were asked to take the car and transport veterans for Anzac Day. Yeah, tell us about that. [00:13:08] Speaker A: Well, up until only last year we were living in the city of Fremantle and I think the last two or three Anzac days I've participated in the Anzac parade through the city of Fremancer, which was a great honour. So the first year was, the first year was beautiful. I was in a convoy of military vehicles and I had a couple of ex servicemen sitting in the back of the wagon, which was, which was wonderful. The next year after that, it absolutely bucketed with rain and I was thinking, oh, you know, because I never got the car wet. You know, as a lot of us classic car owners, we don't, we don't like to get our car wet. But, but that year I thought, you know what, man, it's Fianzac Day, a little bit of water's not going to hurt the car and I can do it, you know, do it for the servicemen. So that second year we drove, I had a few extra people in the car that year because it was raining, but again, it was a great honour. [00:14:12] Speaker A: To participate in the Anzac Day parade. And then I got asked again for a third year, which was, which was great as well. But, but, but yeah, it's, it's, it's things like that are a great opportunity and a great privilege to be able to, I guess, show the car, get a lot of people, comment on the car and enjoy it as well. [00:14:32] Speaker B: So that's good. Yeah, I suppose. Anzac Day is a solemn day for Australia. I had the opportunity to march on behalf of my grandfather who flew with the RAF in World War II, and we marched in Melbourne and it's a solemn day and to actually be part of that and to actually have return servicemen in the back of your car, which is a pristine, unbelievable condition XL station wagon. Look, it's not a coupe, it's not a sedan, it's a station wagon. And you know, those guys appreciate the lift and they appreciate their memories of that era too, of that car. And everybody has a feel good story about growing up with their falcon. [00:15:22] Speaker A: You do hear that a lot, don't you, Darren? You know, a lot of people, especially of that, of that age, in sort of their 60s or 70s where they'll come up to you and say, oh, you know this, we had a car like this. This was our first car, you know, my dad. I remember growing up in a car like this, so. And you get. I, I don't take it out as often now as I, you know, in that first year or two when we got it back on the road and, and Rob helped me get it registered and everything. I was driving it every weekend. I think in that first year I did 3, 000 miles in it, you know, between weekends and, and nighttime drives. So that was, that was really nice. And you, you know, you fill up at the petrol station and you get some old bloke coming and have a chat to you. It was, it was nice, you know, so that it was nice to share the story and, you know, bring a smile to people, get a bit of a thumbs up every now and then. So, you know, it's, it's definitely good. And another thing too, which I've noticed just, you know, digressing a little bit is you mentioned obviously the C4, the C4C and the 404 licensing now, which. Yes, yes, one thing obviously, and I guess hats off to the West Australian government or whoever came up with it, but those, those kind of registrations where the concessional have really helped to get a lot of classic cars back on the road. I've, I've noticed because you know, you know how expensive registration is, don't you? You know, it's over a thousand bucks now. [00:16:48] Speaker B: Oh yeah. For a normal car car, it's massive. It's massive. And if you're an enthusiast, you wouldn't. [00:16:53] Speaker A: Be paying that to have a car that you might drive a couple of times a year, would you? So you just wouldn't justify some people, most people wouldn't. [00:16:59] Speaker B: I've done that. That's. It's sort of one of those things that the aim of the club. I remember one of the first meetings we had with Rob and you and Aaron and Dave and Kevin was how are we going to get C4C? And I said, mate, we need 30 cars. As soon as we get 30 cars I'll put the paperwork in. And the day that we ran the, the Falcon Day at Rob's in Osbourne park, we had 50, 50 odd cars, 40 odd cars and everyone. Have we got, have we got enough cars to get Seaport? So I said, yes, I'll do it this week. I put the paperwork into the concessions department on the Thursday. By Friday afternoon we had it and it was one of the most amazing feelings because it happened so quick, but the paperwork was all done. I's T's crossed. And it was a fantastic feeling for me. But the other most fantastic feeling was, and it took some time, it took like many months was to get the club incorporated in Western Australia. [00:18:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:19] Speaker B: And that took like over three months due to delays. [00:18:26] Speaker B: Due to delays and us misreading. My misreading. And then I had to get Rebecca to do things, my partner and because she's in the computer all day. [00:18:38] Speaker B: And then we had to redo it again and I think we redid it like three times and then it came through and that was great because without the incorporation, without being incorporated, we couldn't get a bank account. Yeah, we couldn't get a bank account. We couldn't get members funds. We couldn't get members funds. We couldn't get the C4C paperwork. [00:19:00] Speaker B: So it was actually, was actually a great, a great moment. [00:19:07] Speaker B: In the club to get the C4C. And I think there's about 20 cars now on the C4C and it's great. And it's just. It saves everybody a heap of money. [00:19:23] Speaker A: Sure does. [00:19:24] Speaker B: It's not as intrusive as other states. The C4C in Western Australia, do they. [00:19:32] Speaker A: Have the same systems in other states? [00:19:33] Speaker B: Yeah, they do. [00:19:33] Speaker A: They have a similar version. [00:19:35] Speaker B: They have a similar version in Victoria. It's up to the Clubster police. So you get your red flights. So you have to change your whole number plate. Where in Western Australia you keep your number plate? You put a number plates around to say restricted use. [00:19:52] Speaker B: And the great thing about the car club, the XK XLX MXP Felphins wa We're part of wasma, which is the Western Australian Street Machine association, and we use their app and Rob's in charge of the app. And when we're having a run, it's. Instead of filling out a logbook, you fill out the Wesmer app and you take it with you. So if you get pulled up by. [00:20:21] Speaker B: DOT or you get pulled over by the local constabulary in Western Australia, as you've done, as you've explained once before, you show them your app on your phone and you're you, you're right to go where in other states they have a book and you have to fill it out. [00:20:38] Speaker A: Old fashioned pen. [00:20:39] Speaker B: Old fashioned pencil. Or you don't want to do it in pencil because. [00:20:44] Speaker B: Pencil can be rubbed out. I think it's black or blue pen. These days. [00:20:49] Speaker B: You have to get your car gone over the pits. You have to get A road worthy then the club has to okay it. So the club in the eastern states, they have two members that go and see your car to make sure that it's okay. So where in Western Australia we don't do that. It's a much more streamlined process. [00:21:14] Speaker B: The clubs need to. [00:21:18] Speaker B: Notify the DOT every year who's, who's a member, not a member. You send in the membership list and they, they go from there. So if you're not a member and you're, or you were a member, it just makes, it just makes it easier to be a member of a car club to get the cheap registration. We're not, we're not asking a lot of money to join the club. It's $50 a year. [00:21:46] Speaker B: We do a few things. We just started out, we're just starting out, we're taking baby steps and you know, it's a much more streamlined approach than other states. [00:22:01] Speaker B: And we're looking at getting number plates arounds done for our, for our club cars here in Western Australia which, which will say restricted use. So there's been, there's been talk on the feed in the committee about what we're going to do with that and how we're going to proceed about. [00:22:22] Speaker B: What the club's going to buy. We're looking at maybe a club tent with you know, stuff like that, a club marquee, club chairs, maybe a club table. We, we originally wanted to call the club the Early Falcon Car Club of Western Australia. And one of the main sticking points was the club was once registered as that. But in 2017 it was registered and the club. [00:22:56] Speaker B: What there was no other information forthcoming for who was running the club in 2017. So we've had to let Dot know and they've had to. The club name is defunct but to re register that name we've had, we have to wait on 18 months. So it's already been one year. [00:23:24] Speaker B: Already and I think by the end of the year that name will be defunct and it will be written off so we can actually register that name and to have it. [00:23:42] Speaker B: Also with the C4C you'll see a list of car clubs where you go onto the dock. The XKXL XMXP Falcons of WA is the very last car club on the second page. So we're not in, we're not mixed among all the other clubs. We're the last club on the page because we start with X. Y. That's great. So it's a crazy, it's a crazy thing but it makes it easier for Us, instead of going, oh, it's on that page somewhere. Yeah, it's the last car club on the last page of the concessions paperwork that you see online for the, for the dot. [00:24:22] Speaker A: I think it'll stick and we'll just leave it like that, I reckon, Darren. [00:24:25] Speaker B: I think like it's, it's, it's rather, it's rather long. But even the, the ladies at the association said, is that what you want to have? I go, well, I can't have. You told me I can't have what we want. But this is, it makes it more streamlined, it makes it. This is our club with our, this is the club that we're using. This is the club with the names of the cars and, you know, XK 1960 XL. [00:24:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:58] Speaker B: Was that 62, 62 to 64, 64 XM, 64 to 65 XP, 65 to 66, middle of 66. And that's the car club that we've got. We, we're catering for the models of that. It's the first generation of Falcons. The XP was the first generation Falcon to win Wheels Car of the Year. After all the problems with the xk, the XK nearly bankrupted Ford. So, so, yeah, so, you know, the club is, the club is going great guns, as I said. We've got our, we've got our AGM in a couple of weeks and the members, we've emailed all the members and we've put it on our club Facebook page. So, yeah, so we're, we're really, we're really now in the, in the next cycle of where we're going with the club and having. [00:26:08] Speaker B: Having a, having an opportunity to be able to speak to and to promote our clubs on the air. I can't thank Tristan Reddick and the team at IPL Radio enough for letting us have a, a show on a Sunday afternoon. So all you guys and girls, you're in the garage, you're working on your cars, you're listening to IPL Radio. We're playing some great music and it's, it's. I don't think no other car club. [00:26:45] Speaker B: Has an outlet of their own radio show on a Sunday afternoon. [00:26:50] Speaker B: So, you know, and it wasn't something that I looked for, it's something that sort of just came about and it's organic. It sort of grew out of nothing. And I spoke to, I spoke to Joe Sunday after. I said, mate, we might have our own radio program. I remember Joe saying, what, are you going to be joking? I go, no, no, we. I said, I've got a little bit of things to do but I think we're going to have our own program. And then I remember Rob saying, oh, is it a podcast? I go no mate, it's live on radio. And he was a bit, everyone's been a bit. Wow, how did that happen? I go, mate, it's a long story, but that's for another day. And, and yeah, the club's going extremely well and we've got a lot of Facebook, Facebook members and we really urge you, if you've got an early Falcon, join the club, send us through a message and. [00:27:55] Speaker B: We'Ll go from there and we'll send you out, we'll send you out a club membership form for 20, 25, 2023, 6. We've got some good things planned. [00:28:06] Speaker B: Probably going to have maybe six runs, six to seven runs in the next 12 months. We're going to have some meetings, we're going to have some, some other events which we're working on at the moment. And you know, some of our club members are going to the 24th early Falcon Nationals in Tasmania which is a, a massive, massive commitment to drive all the way across the country to Melbourne. [00:28:37] Speaker A: And then take the ferry to Tasmania. [00:28:39] Speaker B: Take the ferry to Tasmania. So they're taking their cars, leaving some vehicles in, in leaving some vehicles in Geelong, catching the ferry, five day trip around Tassie and Adrian Will Wilson will be talking more about that in next hour or so and how that came about and you know the club and, and there's probably three club members that are going from Western Australia and that's a, and that's a humongous, that's a massive effort because it's, it's four days to Melbourne, it's three, it's about three and a half thousand kilometers. [00:29:20] Speaker B: And then obviously you got the ferry trip from, from Geelong to Launceston. Yep. So, so yeah, so it's, and the. [00:29:29] Speaker A: Cost involved too must be, it's not just the time and the distance but the cost for people to, to get over from Perth. You know the couple of guys that are going, that's amazing to represent, you know, the state over there and big, it's a big effort, a big expense too. [00:29:44] Speaker B: It's, it's a massive, and you know they've tried to, they've, they've actually tried to, to get good deals on the ferry. But the ferries. [00:29:54] Speaker B: Eleven hundred dollars, that's insane. When I heard that that's, it's massive. And not only you've got five days accommodation, you got probably Three. You got three nights accommodation to travel from Perth across to Melbourne. [00:30:10] Speaker B: We're not talking about a modern car, we're talking about a 1960s falcon. So these guys have got, have got massive, massive commitment. [00:30:21] Speaker B: I went to the first 10 nationals and the furthest we drove was Beau Desert in Brisbane. [00:30:30] Speaker B: And that was massive. Yeah. And I was 30 years younger and it was okay, but I wouldn't want to be doing it in a 1965 XP Falcon Coupe. Yeah. Not today. So. Yeah. So what we're going to do, we're going to play some music on behalf of Joe. [00:30:51] Speaker B: And my happiness with Powder Finger. [00:30:56] Speaker B: So we're back with talking talk with Joe and Matthew, you. And we've just had a. [00:31:05] Speaker B: Text from Carlos and Carlos has asked what is C4C? And C4C is classics for cars. It is a type of registration for people who have a classic car and it's part of the Western Australian Government initiative. [00:31:24] Speaker A: Yep. Concession for classics. And it was a registration released only a couple of years ago by the Department of Transport to help with the cost of keeping classic cars on the road. And represents, I think fundamentally at 25% of the normal registration cost for a car, it has to be a classic car over 25 years old. And if it's slightly modified, so if it's not 100% original, slightly modified, then you can. And if you're a financial member of a. [00:32:07] Speaker A: Car club that's registered with the Department of Transport and you own a classic car that is over 25 years old, then you can qualify for C4C registration. And there's some, there's a couple of easy, I think requirements to abide by when you're, when you're driving, I think it's only 90 days per year that you're allowed to drive your vehicle for personal use. You have a number, you can drive it on club events. But really the average classic car owner is probably not going to drive their car more than 90 days a year anyway. And we generally only tend to drive our cars in good weather, so that counts out sort of three months of winter for most of us. So it's a pretty good deal if you've got a, if you've got an old car in your garage that you've been um, and ah, and about to get back on the road and you've been thinking, look, it's pretty expensive. Already got two cars for me and the wife, it's already, you know, over $2,000 a year in registration. I don't want to pay another full license then C4C registration is the way to go really does represent a huge saving. Join a car club for 50 or $100 a year, become an active member in that car scene. If you want to do it just purely for the registration, that's fine. But there's other great advantages socially as well, to become a member of a car club and then enjoy heavily discounted registration registration. [00:33:37] Speaker B: Yeah, it's great to. It's great that the Western Australian government have done this through dot DOT concessions and it's, it's a car club, so it's, it's, it's your special vehicle, as Joe was saying. And Matthew's here with us on Talking Talk and we're talking cars and we're talking about our, our club, our life, what we do with our cars. And you know, it's not all about just early Falcons, it's. Matthews loves his JDM cars, his Japanese cars. So we'll pass it on to, to Matthew and Matthew, what sort of cars I know you've got. You love your, your nodding car. Yeah. Tell us about your, what do you like about your father's car and your, your family's car? [00:34:30] Speaker A: He loves working on it with me a lot. Didn't you, Matthew? Yeah, he used to come to the workshop a lot, help clean wire brush, all the bits and pieces. Yeah, clean all the stuff with a wire brush and you know, he's been, been enjoying driving it with me in the, in the first couple of years. It was great having him there in the, in the passenger seat with me. Hey. [00:34:50] Speaker B: Yeah. So what sort of JDM cars do you like? Do you like Altizas, RS 5000? Do you like Celicas? Do you like Supras? Do you like, like Skylines? Yeah, GTRS do what, the four wheel drive Godzilla or the, the R35s or the R34s? The R34s. What, what do you like about an R34? Nissan Skyline? [00:35:15] Speaker A: The iconic look and. [00:35:18] Speaker B: Yeah, did you know that they raced them here in Australia? No, I didn't know that. Yeah, they raced them here out of Gibson Motorsport back in the 80s and 90s and Nissan when they built cars here in Australia, they had a race team called Nismo Gibson Motorsport in Dandenong in Melbourne and they ran Nissan Skylines. The late Howard Marsden started that and passed it on to Fred Gibson who was a, a Ford racer back in the 60s and 70s and 80s. And Nissan had a great heritage of building cars in Australia in Dandenong, was it? [00:35:58] Speaker A: That was the Winfield cars, were they? Or was It Mark Scaif and who was it was. [00:36:02] Speaker B: It started off the Peter Jackson racing team. Peter Jackson racing and then Glenn Satan was driving for a young Glenn Satan was driving and he, he went on and. [00:36:18] Speaker B: Took Peter Jackson when they went to Ford Sierras, Ford Cosworth RS5 hundreds. So it became. [00:36:25] Speaker A: Because they got the Skyline got banned, didn't it? [00:36:28] Speaker B: That was, that was a bit later on. Yeah. And then it, then the, the Nissens were, were Peter Jackson cars. [00:36:39] Speaker B: And then they became Winfield cars. [00:36:42] Speaker A: Right. [00:36:42] Speaker B: And the, those sort of cars were, were evil handling. But with all the work that Fred Gibson and the guys at Nissan did, they became supercar killers. They were, they were fantastic on the racetrack. They were all drive, four wheel drive. They had the Hollinger gearboxes. They were, they were fantastic. And, and you know that sort of was on the ruin of racing in Australia for that period of time before they went to the V8 supercars which was Ford and Holden. [00:37:18] Speaker A: It was a golden era then, wasn't it? It was 70s, the 70s to the 80s into the early 90s even. Even kind of, you know their sort of the latter part of the 90s when they had the, the EB Falcon. When Ford came back with the V8 Falcon, sort of like EB E L E F and then that was it. The VN Commodore VP. That was, that was a great period of V8 racing. [00:37:43] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. You know, and you know the Ford had the EA EB ed EF el. [00:37:52] Speaker B: And you know, Ford, Ford weren't really big in racing in the day in Australia. They, they had their toe in the water with Ella Moffat. They had the dealer team in 73. [00:38:07] Speaker B: Then they went to sponsor Moffat in 73. They got out of racing after the XA and Alan Moffat and the privateers flew the flag. [00:38:17] Speaker A: There was never any factory teams. It was not from the mid-70s, all private. [00:38:21] Speaker B: Yeah, it was all privateers from 73 to 76 when Ellen Moffat they signed to be the Moffat Ford dealers. [00:38:33] Speaker B: That was 76, 77, the greatest, the 1 2, the 12 finisher Bathurst and that was Moffat 4 dealers again. The Cobras came 78 they didn't do. They had mechanical problems, gremlins, Colin bonds, Alan Moffat. But 77 is probably the greatest win 12 victory of that era and. [00:38:59] Speaker B: It'S remembered by many, many millions of people. [00:39:05] Speaker B: Nissan sort of got involved in the early 80s with a pulsar. So they ran a group C pulsar then they ran the Bluebird. [00:39:16] Speaker B: So they ran a Bluebird and you know, they had great you know George Fury, farmer George Fury from Tlangi. Rally car driver. Yeah. And yeah, he was, he was, he was killing it. He was killing the Bluebirds at Bathurst and the Australian Touring Car Championship. [00:39:35] Speaker A: What year did. Was the. Because there was a period there where there was the Camaro, there was a Mustang. [00:39:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:40] Speaker A: When was that was that? [00:39:41] Speaker B: So you're looking at 1980. Group C. Holden had the Holland, had the Commodore Ford through the. There wasn't an official backed entry but Wayne Draper who was a designer there designed the bodywork for Murray Carter. [00:39:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:58] Speaker B: And that was the basis of the Group C Falcons. Yep. Dxd, the xd, the xc. [00:40:05] Speaker B: That was the last of the Group C. And then obviously the group say there was the Nissans. Yeah, the Bluebirds. [00:40:12] Speaker A: And was that because there was different. There was a few different makes in too. Right. So there was BMW for a while. [00:40:18] Speaker B: Yeah, it was BMW. There was the Mark Pitch Volvos, John Bell, Robbie Francavic. So there was a. [00:40:25] Speaker A: There was a couple of years in there. I can't quite remember. Must have been the late 90s, late 80s, early 90s where they kind of opened the door to all kinds of. [00:40:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Then. Then it became Group A. So then group C84 was the last year of Group C I think. I think it was 84 and then they, they went to Group A and there was nothing, there was no proper Fords to run. So Dick Johnson imported a couple of Zack Speed Mustangs. Yep. Larry Perkins after the HDT blow up with Brock went to drive with Dick Johnson in Bathurst. They had two cars and then obviously the vks, the vls. [00:41:08] Speaker B: There was nothing real. Ford only had the, the Fox body Mustang. Yeah. There was like. There was Dick Johnson's one, there was the pine pack ones out of New Zealand. Laurie Nelson had one Capri Parts in Thomastown. He had a. He had a Mustang. [00:41:24] Speaker A: What year did the Sierra come in? There was 92. [00:41:27] Speaker B: 80 or earlier. Was it 86? 87. Okay, 86, 87 till the early 90s. [00:41:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I think Ford re. So Ford rejoined with the V8. Was. Was it 92? [00:41:41] Speaker B: Yeah. When the. When the EA. [00:41:45] Speaker B: Yeah. So when they, when they, when they sort of came across. When they sort of came across the EA and. [00:41:54] Speaker B: England went super Touring. Super touring wasn't a great deal of super tourers in Australia but they did have. Running a Super touring championship. [00:42:07] Speaker B: Then Ford and Holden and the guys who were involved in racing, they wanted to go Falcon and Commodore. [00:42:15] Speaker A: Yep. [00:42:15] Speaker B: Nissan were out and then it was the modern era of V8. So EA Craig allowance jumped ship from Holden to Ford. [00:42:27] Speaker A: And that was a bit later on. That was in the 99. That was with the AU Falcon. [00:42:32] Speaker B: Yeah, the AU. The AU. [00:42:33] Speaker A: And the green Eyed Monster. [00:42:36] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. The Green Eyed Monster was, was a. It's a classic. It is. Craig Lowndes jumped from Holden to Ford. Nick Paulides was the president of Ford Australia and wanted to go racing. [00:42:49] Speaker B: They put a. They built a EA Falcon with a 5 liter in it. They went V8 racing. Kent Newdon in an EA SS won the Australian Production Car championship in a Falcon sponsored by. By Penride oil than centerline suspension. Yep. [00:43:06] Speaker A: So that was a different class of motor racing. [00:43:08] Speaker B: Yeah, that was groupie production. [00:43:09] Speaker A: Okay. [00:43:10] Speaker B: Yeah, groupie production. And then the V8s, Larry Perkins, Dick Johnson, Peter Brock, Alan Moffat. Some, some, some massive, some massive cars and. Some massive. [00:43:23] Speaker B: Some massive cars and some massive. [00:43:26] Speaker B: Sponsorships. [00:43:27] Speaker A: Yeah. What's your, what's your take on the current formula for, for supercars? [00:43:32] Speaker C: You. [00:43:33] Speaker A: I have to say I've lost a bit of interest in it. I don't follow it as much as what I did when I was. When it was Falcons and Commodores. [00:43:39] Speaker B: But. [00:43:39] Speaker A: What do you think of the current format? [00:43:41] Speaker B: Look, it's not. [00:43:42] Speaker A: I. [00:43:46] Speaker B: I don't like it. [00:43:49] Speaker B: But it doesn't. [00:43:53] Speaker A: Are they still driving around in Camaros? [00:43:55] Speaker B: Is that. Yeah, yeah. Camaros are Mustangs and like you can buy a Ford Mustang from any Ford. [00:44:00] Speaker A: Dealer, but you can't. But Camaros aren't made. They cease production. [00:44:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:04] Speaker A: Late last year. [00:44:05] Speaker B: Yeah. So. So you can't buy a Camaro next year. Toyota's coming involved. Yeah. So Toyota's bringing the Supra. You got two teams. [00:44:15] Speaker B: Walkinshaw and Dready United and Brad Jones Racing were on the supras. [00:44:22] Speaker B: You've got 10, you got five, four teams. [00:44:26] Speaker B: Dick Johnson, iconic. He's been. [00:44:30] Speaker A: It's still Penske, is it? Penske? [00:44:32] Speaker B: No, no, it's not Dick Johnson Racing. It's owned by. [00:44:36] Speaker B: It's owned by the Ralphs also. And, and Dick. And then there's the cool drive and then there's. [00:44:43] Speaker B: Penright. So you've got five, four teams. [00:44:46] Speaker A: Is that monster whose monsters? [00:44:48] Speaker B: Tickford. [00:44:49] Speaker A: Tickford. That's it, yeah. [00:44:50] Speaker B: Tickford. You got the guys at Tickford with, with Randall and that. [00:44:56] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's a great representation of Ford like with the Mustang. Because the Mustang's still a. At least the Mustang's still a relevant vehicle that, like you said, you can still go down to Titan Ford and buy a Mustang. [00:45:06] Speaker B: Yeah. You can buy a Mustang, but it. [00:45:07] Speaker A: Feels a little bit irrelevant when you. When you. The Camaro is not a car that's made anymore. What other makes are they going to be next year? There's going to be Toyota. Like you say Toyota. [00:45:18] Speaker B: Toyota is going to have the Supra. [00:45:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:45:21] Speaker B: Ford's going to have the Mustang. [00:45:22] Speaker A: Yeah. GM will still run the Command will. [00:45:25] Speaker B: Still run the Camaro because GM haven't. There's no car to take over the Camaro. So Triple eight left. Big news. Triple eight left GM and got in bed with Ford. They saw the writing on the wall because they sell cars. They sell race cars. Ford's got a program of GT3 racing and Ford's got a program of GT4 racing. So if you follow GT4 racing, Eastern Creek was last week or the week before and they had a massive grid of GT4 cars and Andrew Madecki, who race Ford Sierras. [00:46:04] Speaker A: What's a GT4 car? What's. [00:46:06] Speaker B: So GT4 car is a step down from a GT3. It's a bit more. It's a bit more basic. It's got a little bit of aero. [00:46:14] Speaker A: What's an example like a Ford Mustang. [00:46:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:17] Speaker B: Looks like a Ford Mustang is a Ford Mustang. [00:46:19] Speaker A: But it's not a V8 supercar. [00:46:20] Speaker B: No, it's not a V8 supercar. It's a. [00:46:22] Speaker A: It's one that you buy off the showroom floor. [00:46:24] Speaker B: Yeah. It's one that you buy from Modekies. Yep. In wollongong, they're the GT4 dealer. Multimatic in Canada make them. [00:46:32] Speaker A: So is it the. You know, with the. With the V8 supercars that they've got the car of the future which is. Has to the. Even though it's a Mustang shape, it has to fit within the chassis and the roll cage is GT3 and GT4, it's totally different. Totally different. So it's the. Is it the car that Ford makes? It's a. [00:46:48] Speaker B: It's a car that Ford makes. Yeah. With their partner Multimatic. Multimatic are in Canada and they make GT3s and they make GT4s and that's the only place you can buy them from.888 will probably be selling GT3s. Modecki Ford in Wollongong, they are the multimatic dealer for GT4s in Australia. So if you wanted to go GT4 racing, you could ring up the Modeki's in Wollongong and buy a car. A turnkey car. Yeah. They don't sell it in parts, but they do have parts if you have problems. But they are turnkey cars running forward, drive lines running, all four drive lines running, you know the Ford engines running the s, you know 560, whatever the engines they are. So yeah, so it's, it's a great, it's a great concept and it's a great. [00:47:46] Speaker B: It'S a great way to go racing. And you know Ford's now pushing for a one make series with the gtd. Yeah. [00:47:55] Speaker B: The Modeki's George and his co driver won it Eastern Creek in Sydney last week. [00:48:07] Speaker B: And you know it just proves how good a car that is because it's a, it's really a factory spec racer. [00:48:12] Speaker A: But who was it up against though? What? [00:48:14] Speaker B: Oh it was Ferrari, Zton Martins. So all the supercar companies are Aston Martin. They make a GT4, Mercedes make a GT4 and SLS. Ferrari, Porsche, McLaren, they all make a GT4 spec racer for a gentleman racer which is not a professional but it's a great, it's a great car that if you had the money and you wanted to run a Ferrari you can go to the local Ferrari dealer, they'll put an order in for a GT4 car. Arise Racing. I think they're in Perth. [00:48:46] Speaker B: They run Ferraris so there's about a good number of makes in that GT4 series and they do a great job and it's competitive and it's run by the aco. [00:49:01] Speaker A: Is there any round? There's no round in WA though, is it? [00:49:04] Speaker B: I don't think so. I don't think he's around in wa. It's all along the east coast which is a, which is a shame but I think with the V8 supercars running in Barbagallo this weekend and the talk of the. [00:49:19] Speaker B: Street circuit. [00:49:21] Speaker B: In Perth next year that they're looking at running an event 10 days. Yeah, right. So they're looking at running three days at Burswood and they're running the rest of the time at Barbagello. So it's a 10 day motorsport festival they're sort of looking for and yeah, so we're gonna play some more music and we're gonna. After that we'll, we'll have a chat to Joe and that again and have another chat. [00:49:52] Speaker A: Keep talking cars. [00:49:53] Speaker B: Keep talking cars. [00:49:57] Speaker B: So that was another great tune. And now we've got Adrian Wilson on from Tasmania. And Adrian is the. [00:50:18] Speaker B: And Adrian is from the Classic Ford Club of Tasmania and the chairman of the Tasmanian Early Falcon Nationals committee. Welcome Adrian to the program today. [00:50:31] Speaker C: How you going Darren? Thanks very much for having me. [00:50:32] Speaker B: On, mate. Well, thank you very much, Adrian, one of our second guests and it's great to have Adrian from Tasmania. And so who is Adrian and what does Adrian do? [00:50:45] Speaker C: Well, I'm a Ford Tragic. Obviously my father was one so obviously my brother and I had to end up being one. I'm a spray painter by trade to work at Cascade Brewery. And yeah, I've got. I've had a few forwards in me time, Australian made forwards and English made forwards and still got a pretty decent collection at the moment. So that keeps me busy, that's for sure. [00:51:06] Speaker B: That's fantastic. So what is the early falcon scene like in Tasmania? [00:51:13] Speaker D: Well, look, it's a bit. [00:51:14] Speaker C: It was a bit up and down, so it was pretty big back in the late 70s, 80s and early 90s. There was actually an early Falcon owners club down here and that was run by Teresa Robertson who's actually in the organising committee for the nationals I'm doing. But that was a pretty big club back in its day. But that folded in the mid-90s and a few other four clubs folded as well. The Capri Club, Mustang Club and even in the late 90s the GD Falcon Car Club was from this last league. And luckily back in 2002, young fellas that I know, Brett Pitfield and Julian Gill, created the classic forward club of Tasmania which caters for all the clubs that sort of disappeared. So everything forward from 1948 up. And I've actually got Brett and Julian on the committee of the nationals as well. So I've been a member of that. It's 25 years old this year but in regards to the earlies, we've got a few earlies that have come in on that club. But what we found was when we started talking about the nationals we realised we didn't really hardly know any early falcons down here around Tasladen at this stage. Over the last six months we've been doing a fair bit of work, groundwork and investigating. We found about 90 plus early models that are surround the state and we found about 80% of them aren't in any clubs or don't do the car show scene at all. So with the depths here, it's unreal. We don't know why. So with. With the information that we're gathering, we're going to use that. Obviously the nationals has really brought them out of the woodwork. It's getting them all real excited about it. But even after the nationals it's going to make it that with that information now we've got all the Contact details We can actually make a decent scene in Tasmania for early falcon owners. So that's the real good outcome out of it. [00:52:55] Speaker B: That's fantastic. I suppose, you know, coming from Melbourne the scene is, has always been vibrant in wa. The scene was an underground scene and it's also very vibrant. So what does it mean to hold the early Falcon Nationals in Tasmania this year? [00:53:14] Speaker C: Oh well look, this look we're absolutely stoked and privileged to have it. Like obviously people like Teresa Robinson that was this the person that literally ran it all back in the day. People like that and Julian and Brett as well and myself and a few of the other committee members. We're just over the moon to be able to get the opportunity to have it here. But before I go any further, I'd actually like to thank all the Mayman clubs and the presidents for giving us the opportunity. We put a proposal forward and they all were very supportive of it. So we really thank them for letting us have it down here for the first time. But a special thanks to Tony from the Early Falcon Car Club of New South Wales. Because their actual nationals were supposed to be this one this year and they kindly gave that up so we could actually have our first one down here. But as I said it's actually setting the scene down here in Tasit for the early falcons to really make a comeback. That's for sure. [00:54:01] Speaker B: That's great. Look it's. It's always an awesome achievement to hold a national event in your own state. So where in Tasmania is the nationals to be held and what is the, what is installed for entrants and participants? [00:54:17] Speaker C: Well I'll talk for a little bit here. So with the national, the main nationals be down in Hobart in the main in the capital sea. But because we knew it's going to be a bit of a logistical challenge for mainlanders come over because of the boat and the cost of coming over on the ferry and back. We knew we had to probably do a bit more than just the normal two and a half day national event. So we've created a three day event before the national called the Tassie Tour and that's. I'll go quickly through that. [00:54:45] Speaker D: So like if we go into a. [00:54:47] Speaker C: Lot of private car collection. So the first day on the Wednesday when the mainlanders come off the boat we'll be going to two car collections on that day in the northwest and going to the historical town, the Deloraine craft shops and that. But just one of them, the private collections on that day is probably one of the most Impressive private collections in Australia. There's over 100 top end vehicles, race cars and motorbikes and it's hardly ever seen by anyone. So we're real privileged to be able to get into there that night. We'll be going staying in Launceston on the Wednesday night and then Thursday morning we're going to the National Automotive Museum Tasmania which got a lot of high end cars in there. Go on to Longford lunch and then we're actually going to another collection that you won't see anywhere in Australia which is because Longford was had the Australian Grand Prix held there for many years. So there's a lot of history there. Well there's a collection there of Repco Brabham Slashford, Jack Bravo memorabilia that you won't see anywhere else in Australia or the world. And that's a real, that's a real key thing we've got for the nationals as well. So that'll be high end sort of stuff to see there. On our way down to Hobart on that Thursday we call Drake Play where we'll be doing a couple of parade laps there with a professional photographer on behalf. [00:56:02] Speaker C: The Friday we're down Hobart Thursday night and Friday is just a general like free day. We'll do one sort of run to a tourist destination. But the nationals will start actually on that Friday night with the normal registration and welcome barbecue. But we'll also have a early Falcon swap meet car boot sale there as well. So that's just something different. On the Saturday will be the normal internationals have the day cruise. We'll be going to Harlem House Lawns which is in Salamanca, the Classic four Club. This is literally a car show in itself on the Palm House since we've had a few all four days there. But the main ticket thing about being there on a Saturday, Salamanca market's right next door which is the big market in Australia. Saturday night we have the dinner as per normal which with all the normal things, some silent auctions and speeches and that. And then the actual car show itself down at the waterfront again, Salamanca in Princess Wharf number one. Now this is a old wharf shed that's been renovated about 15 years ago to be a entertain exhibition center. We fit about 100 cars inside. It's real picturesque, it's a real top spot. And there's also another 90 cars we can fit outside on the forecourt. So the car show itself is going to be indoor car show and it's right literally in the center of Hobart. You catch the boat to Mona, do all the pubs at Salamanca And a five minute walk to the middle of Obar. So it's a real good destination when we've got that and then we finish the event with a farewell barbecue. So that's pretty much in a nutshell. But yeah, we've done it, we've done it to try and make it a bit more enticing to come over and make a trip out of it. Really. [00:57:37] Speaker B: Yeah. That's fantastic. And I've got Joe with me and you know we're just nodding and going hey, what an awesome event that will be. And you know you, you guys have put a, a sensational amount of effort and work into it. [00:57:55] Speaker B: And it, it's awesome to see. [00:57:57] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:57:58] Speaker C: Some of these private collections will blow your mind. It's quite deceiving what's behind closed doors down here in Tasmania that's for sure. [00:58:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I suppose, you know we're just, we're in awe because I went to the first 10 early Falcon Nationals. I was involved in the first one in Melbourne and the first couple and the amount of work, the amount of effort and really, really we were just looking at a two day event. But this is, this is. [00:58:27] Speaker B: An amazing, it's a holiday so you have to plan your year and it's a holiday. [00:58:32] Speaker C: And that's what I want to try and create to give that option that you could do that. So then it was worthwhile making the effort to come over. [00:58:38] Speaker B: That's great. So you're supporting a charity. [00:58:42] Speaker C: Yeah, so we've got Muscular Dystrophy Tasmania on board as the charity so they're real over the moon because they're just a small local charity. Don't get a heap of money from the government and we've done a few sums with the sponsors and everything. We've got down a few sums and we could reckon we're going to get hopefully over 10 grand plus and we'll be able to give them at the end of it. [00:59:01] Speaker B: That's great. [00:59:01] Speaker C: So that's totally fantastic to be able to do that because the classic four clubs are non for profit clubs so they won't be taking anything out of it. So everything that's made we're going straight to the MD Tasmania. [00:59:12] Speaker B: That's great. And you've got a few sponsors for the event I take it? [00:59:16] Speaker C: Yeah, we've got some big ones so sure. Civil contract and come on board as the major sponsor which was fantastic for them. And then we got the two other major sponsors, Parko Auto Parts and Tyres which is the local Tasmanian Bridges. And then from Melbourne Early Falcon Spares, Michael's come on board there, which is fantastic. Then we've got some lower businesses that come on board with Bennett's Petroleum, Moveu Spectrum Car, Payne Classic Wheel Works, Tilford's Auto Group, Liverpool Engineering, Pickles Auctions, Luke's Auto Glass and Repairs, Cleaver Signs, the Blaze Engineering and Events Tasmania who gave us PW1 for pretty much no cost then Motorsports Australia or Tasmania. Sorry. So all them businesses coming on board have been able us to. We've actually got the entry fee at 25 per car, which is, it's probably the lowest it's been for a fair few years. So that's not per person, that's per car. So if you've got four people in the car, it's still only 25 per head. [01:00:11] Speaker D: Yeah, that's the event. [01:00:12] Speaker B: That's, that's a fantastic value. [01:00:15] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:00:15] Speaker C: So that includes all the Tassie Tour apart from the National Automotive Museum, but that pays for everything else. The free barbecues on the Friday and the Sunday and the buses to and from the dinner and, but I will say to be able to attend the Tassie Tour and the rest of it, you will have to be registered and pay the 25 because we don't want just the general public rocking up on these private collections will be giving people wristbands when they're registered so then we know the right people are turning up. [01:00:41] Speaker B: That's great. I mean to see some of those private collections is, is an awesome, it's awesome because you don't, you never ever get to see a person's private collection in their own thing and you've, you've got the, the, the, the curator or the owner and, and they're going to talk about their cars and they, they, they're great to talk to enthusiasts because as an enthusiast they understand the car and, and what you're doing and. [01:01:09] Speaker B: You know, it's, it's a great, it's a great part of being. [01:01:15] Speaker B: As part of the nationals. [01:01:17] Speaker C: Yep. [01:01:19] Speaker B: So yes, yeah, it's good, it's all good. [01:01:22] Speaker C: Yeah. We've got some special events also happening in the National. So this year it's actually 60 years of the XP Falcon. [01:01:28] Speaker B: Yes. [01:01:28] Speaker C: So with that, with that we're doing a big feature on the Ford Australia XP Falcon 70,000 mile durability trial they've done. So we've actually got David Forbes bringing his red XP Coupe tribute car down as a feature. Brett Pitfield's also done some brilliant XP 60th anniversary logos for stickers and merchandise Yep. And we're actually going to do five separate six year anniversary trophies for the XP which is we'll announce later on something definitely different and that will be each for a sed Dan ute coupe, wagon and van. So really emphasis on the 60 years of the XP thousand as well. [01:02:05] Speaker B: That's fantastic. It's, you know we, we'd plan to go overseas but I would have loved to come and I would have loved to come and bring the driving suit, the only driving suit left from the durability trial and we had that on display here in WA and it was on display at the Ford Discovery center in Geelong for many years until they closed and I've had that and it's an amazing piece of history. [01:02:33] Speaker C: Oh my word. [01:02:34] Speaker B: And it's the only. [01:02:36] Speaker A: So that that suit was actually worn by one of the drivers, was it Darren? [01:02:39] Speaker B: I've seen photos of it. [01:02:40] Speaker A: I've always wanted to know what the story behind it. [01:02:42] Speaker B: Yeah, the, the, the, the driving suit. [01:02:47] Speaker B: Was made by Les Lester in Seville Row in England and Lester, Lester was a racing driver and Ford, Ford made these driving suits and they're embossed. [01:03:00] Speaker B: They'Re all blue, they've got Dunlop, they've got mobile oil, they've got the Falcon patch on the back, they've got Dunlop. As I said, they've got all the other bits and pieces and how, how I came to be the custodian of this over 30 years ago. I was on a, I was asked to be on an antiques and collectibles program in Melbourne by Mr. Keith McGowan who was on Melbourne 3. Aw. It was called the Overnighters and it was called Collectible Hour and there was no mobile phones or Internet back then and there was no computers and yeah, it was, was really weird. And I was being in the club in Melbourne, I was in contact with the late Adrian Wright who was at Ford Public affairs. And I said to Adrian, I said, you know, so the guy rang and Billy's name was and he rang and he goes I've got this driving suit and you know, are you interested? And I said look, you know I'll come and have a look at it. I'd called Adrian, I said hey this guy's wrong. I was on the radio last night and he goes well Darren, just have a look and, and just see and send me a picture. Well there was no mobile phones back then either. So I went out to Geelong and heard, heard Bill's story and he worked at the proving ground in Geelong and he was given, there was two suits that were left and his mate took one and he wore it in his workshop as his overalls and Bob just hung it in his wardrobe. [01:04:35] Speaker B: 30 odd years. [01:04:35] Speaker A: Wow. [01:04:36] Speaker B: And his daughter had fallen on hard times and he wanted to sell the suit to provide for his grandchildren to go to a camp. So I drove out of the first, second year apprentice, drove all the way out to geelong in my xp, saw the suit. Yeah, he wanted $300 for it, 300 on apprentice. Wages was massive. [01:05:02] Speaker B: And I purchased it. [01:05:06] Speaker B: Adrian said to me, have a look at, you know, these items and see if it's okay. And it was in very, very good condition. Yeah. And he sold it to me and I went that morning I drove from Geelong down to Ford Broad Meadows. [01:05:25] Speaker B: Knocked, went to the reception there. Adrian took me upstairs and there was Jack Nasser there and there's a few other people. Howard Marsden was there and they looked at it and they go, wow, this is an original driving suit. [01:05:40] Speaker D: Gee. [01:05:41] Speaker B: And I've had it ever since. [01:05:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Wow, that's incredible. [01:05:44] Speaker B: So when we have another, when we have displays here in Perth, I, I've got them, I've got it on a mannequin called Bob. And so Bob comes out and stands up and people go, is that for real? Is that real? And I go, it's, it's, it, it is the real, it is the real deal. And when. [01:06:03] Speaker B: Ford had the Discovery center in Geelong, they asked me and when they saw it they, oh, it can't be the real deal. And then they actually got film of the, of that, of that event and they go, man, it's the real, real deal. Yeah. Wow. So. [01:06:19] Speaker B: You can't, you can't find it, you can't buy it. You know, I've been lucky to be the custodian for all these years. [01:06:26] Speaker A: You haven't tried to, you haven't tried to fit into it, have you? [01:06:29] Speaker B: Dance? I am six foot three and I am a rather large person. [01:06:35] Speaker A: They were made a lot skinnier back then. [01:06:37] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I spoke to the late Graham Hornival who was a driver back in the day. He's, he's a jockey sized driver and he goes mate, he goes, he goes, I reckon I could fit into that. Yeah. And he did. And he goes, mate, he goes, Alan Moffat was a small guy. He could have fitted into that if you knew that. So there's a, so there's a number of drivers that could have actually. [01:07:02] Speaker B: Used it. And you know, part of the, even the 30th anniversary, the, the Falcon, the early Falcon Car Club of Victoria, they Provided some cars to go to the Yuyangs. Yeah and that, that was a. That was an awesome event and it was for. Just for the drivers and, and it was being pushed by Adrian Ryan the late Adrian Ryan at Ford Public affairs and Adrian Ryan was, it was a race caller. He called the formula 5000s and all that sort of gaffer and just legendary and yeah and Adrian had XP Squire wagons I think he had three and he restored one before he passed on. [01:07:44] Speaker C: Yep. [01:07:46] Speaker B: And you know it's a part of history like it's, it's folklore what what these guys did and you know brought. [01:07:55] Speaker C: Australia out of a hole because they the sailors were down to buggery and that actual event got them back on track against the hold. [01:08:02] Speaker B: Yeah I mean you know the car. [01:08:05] Speaker A: Of the year didn't they? [01:08:05] Speaker B: Yeah 1965 and and it was all. It was on live TV every night they had a. You know on channel 7 or channel 9 or whatever it was or channel O back in the day it was live and the, one of the, one of the things that stuck in my mind when I was there that that day at the Ford center and that, that Henry Ford either going to LA Mall in 66, 65 stopped off at Ford Broadmeadows to have a look at these guys and he thought they were all mad. [01:08:37] Speaker A: That's the focal isn't it? [01:08:39] Speaker B: Apparently he got off his helicopter all. [01:08:41] Speaker A: You guys are crazy. Got back on and then left and. [01:08:45] Speaker B: Left and yeah the Yu Yangs it wasn't. It was the bush. We're not talking to you Yang today. There was no sealed roads there was. It was just this bush track in the Yuyangs of Geelong and, and Ford was massive in Geelong in the day and the, the Ford factory was actually based on a. A factory in America because Henry Ford was a bit of a. A penny pincher. Yeah and that, that roof at Ford Geelong was the same roof at the as in Canada and they could take 10 meter snow drifts. Never snowed in Geelong but, but it could, but it could take the 10 meter snow drifts so yeah so that's part of folklore and that's part of you know what, what happened in the day and you know the late Adrian Ryan was fantastic and he also ran Ford Public affairs all the promotional work of all the, all the cars. I remember they took a ea Falcon to Tasmania to do the Targetazzi. [01:09:47] Speaker C: Yeah that's right. [01:09:49] Speaker B: He also ran one, one time only The Ford Laser 4 Wheel Drive Laser was actually run out of Ford Public affairs and that ran at the Bathurst 12 hour back in the day at Easter. [01:10:06] Speaker A: The Ford Laser, the small. [01:10:07] Speaker B: You hear the Ford, ford laser forward. TX TX3 4. TX3, four wheel drive actually ran at Bathurst and beat the opposition in their class. And I don't know, I can't remember if it won or it comes second or. But it definitely won its class. And it actually. [01:10:27] Speaker B: Actually was run out of Ford. Public affairs, not Ford never had a race team, but it ran. Kent Newton drove and there was a couple of other guys and run out of centerline suspension and you know, and Thomas Dent was all backyard stuff. [01:10:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:42] Speaker B: And I've actually got a poster, a dealer poster of the Forte X3 laser in my little shed. [01:10:49] Speaker A: It was a, it was a car that they sold. I remember seeing them back in the, in the day. The TX3. [01:10:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So it's all good. [01:10:56] Speaker C: So quite desirable now. [01:10:58] Speaker B: They are, they are. I mean I wanted to. Oh, I wanted to race one back in the day. I wanted to hilt climb one, but I could never find one. So Adrian, how can people contact you and find out information about the event? [01:11:11] Speaker C: Well, so we're on Facebook. So if you look up the 24th early falcon nationals, Tasmania 2025, that's an open public page. We have a lot of information on that with what's going on. Early profile, early bird profile, pictures of cars that are entering and stuff like that. If you're not on Facebook, you want to do via email It's EFN to early packing nationals, but just efn2025mail.com. [01:11:40] Speaker B: That's awesome. That's awesome, Adrian. And. [01:11:45] Speaker B: That'S awesome Adrian. So we've got all those details and we'll put it on the Talking Talk Facebook page. And I can see that you've, you've been advertising on all the Early Falcon Facebook pages around the country from Western Australia, South Australia, Victoria, New South Wales, Queensland. [01:12:05] Speaker B: And you've got your own Facebook page, which is fantastic. We'll put those details on the Talking Talk Facebook page. And that's, that's, it's awesome to have you as our second guest on Talking Talk Western Australia. [01:12:21] Speaker C: Thank you very much for having me. It's been a pleasure. [01:12:23] Speaker B: And we've got some songs that Adrian's picked out. So all those, all those early Falcon men, women, girls, guys can listen to some, some tunes that Adrian's picked out. So we're gonna be the Foo Fighters. My hero. Take me back Back Noise works. We couldn't find some Def Leford, but we've got some ACD Seeks some classic AC DC rock and cruising in your car around the. Around the, cruising in Hobart lawn Cessna and all the country and all around Australia. If you're cruising in your car, listen to IPL radio, Rockingham. Thank you very much, Adrian. Have a great day. Thank you. [01:13:10] Speaker D: Thank you. [01:13:10] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:13:11] Speaker A: Cheers, Adrian. [01:13:14] Speaker B: The best music from the 60s to today, IPL radio. So we're back on air and we've just played some ACDC and we'll play some bits and pieces for Adrian Wilson from the 24th Early Falcon Nationals to be held in Tasmania this year. So now we're just gonna talk about some local issues. [01:13:40] Speaker B: And one of the local issues with the. One of the local issues this week that's come up, West Australian Premier Roger Cook and the Prime Minister Anthony Albanese have made a pledge to make to extend the Kwanana Freeway from row highway to Mortimer Road. Now, I travel up there every day. I'll go to work in Kenwick and I come back down the row highway, across the row highway into the Kwanana and it is a car park every afternoon. [01:14:16] Speaker A: So what exactly have they said they want to do? Extend it or widen it? [01:14:19] Speaker B: Widen, widen and widen the Kwana. [01:14:24] Speaker A: So how many lanes is, I can't remember from the row highway south, Is it only two? [01:14:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's actually from the row highway to say, Beelia Russell, Russell Road, that area, it's three lanes. And then after Russell Road, Russell Gibbs Road, it turns into two. [01:14:47] Speaker B: So, you know, there's a bit of infrastructure there that has to be done. But they should be doing it both sides. You got the train line in the middle. But the question that I'll put to everybody, is it prudent for the state government and the federal government, both labor governments, to take the freeway widen, widening the freeway to Safety Bay Road or do they go all the way to Mandurah? So what do you think of that, Joe? [01:15:28] Speaker A: Well, having traveled the freeway a lot myself, it's on certain days, at certain times, it's, it's pretty bad. That area that you explained, either going south or north on the freeway, especially around the Cockburn shopping center area, Armodale Road, it's, it's a terrible bottleneck in the afternoons. Definitely widening it. Everyone would be pleased to hear about that. But obviously it's going to take time and there's going to be a lot of construction and inconvenience along the way. But my thought is while they're doing it, just take it as. Just do it once and do it properly and take it as far south as possible, all the way to Mandurah if needed. Because the next 10 years, 15, 20 years, is going to continue to be housing growth down. [01:16:20] Speaker A: That south corridor following the freeway and there's going to continue to be increase in people living there. And that's just going to put more pressure on the roads and the freeways areas. You know, you can see growth areas already through Cockburn, Beely, Spearwood, all the way south Henderson. So it's only going to continue to grow. And I guess what I'm trying to say, Daz, is that it's not going to get any, any lighter and traffic's not going to decrease. Especially if, you know, we're all going to continue to drive, buy and drive cars and sort of not, you know, when Perth is notoriously not a lover of public transport. So it's only going to put more pressure on the road systems, isn't it? [01:17:04] Speaker B: Look, it is. And I haven't been here for a long time. I've only been here for like nearly two and a bit years, nearly three years. And. [01:17:17] Speaker B: I found that coming from Melbourne, the roads are a lot better. They're better here, they're better in Western Australia. They are a more mile ahead of the roads in Victoria. [01:17:32] Speaker A: You mean the condition of the roads? [01:17:33] Speaker B: The condition of the roads, but not necessarily the driving, not necessarily the driving habits are a lot better out east. [01:17:42] Speaker B: But the road surfaces and the road itself is well maintained. Y. And there's no tolls in Western Australia. [01:17:51] Speaker A: That's right. [01:17:52] Speaker B: Where in Melbourne there's a toll, there's tolls everywhere. [01:17:58] Speaker B: What, what? It's all congestion here in Western Australia and it's congestion anywhere. With the amount of people that you have traveling south, north, that sort of, that sort of direction. The, the part that, that it's, it's, it's the congestion. But if you go to Melbourne and you want to go from Wallen, which is on the Hume highway, and you want to go to Epping on a. And you need to go to epping, which is 30 kilometers away, you are gonna, it's gonna take you, it's 30 k's but it may take you two hours. Yeah. [01:18:35] Speaker D: Wow. [01:18:36] Speaker B: So that's congestion. I don't think that the Western Australian public understand congestion until you come back from back east and you see that congestion. [01:18:49] Speaker A: So in that regard we, we do sound like we're pretty lucky. Like, you're right. Congestion here is, you know, maybe 15 minutes, sort of as you get. If you're going north to south on the freeway on A Friday afternoon, it might take you 15 minutes longer as you go through sort of that West Perth area, South Perth might add 20 minutes. But once, once you're out of the city, that frees up, doesn't it? [01:19:11] Speaker B: Yeah, it definitely frees up, but if you have to travel. So I've just mentioned the, the wall and to weapon, which is 30 kilometers. [01:19:20] Speaker B: If you want to go to the airport from Bundura, which is a straight run on the Western ring road and there's an accident, God help you getting there for your plane because you are stuck in traffic. And the side roads to get to the airport from, say, Plenty Road, which is a straight run, there's no, there's no tolls. It's. It's three lanes. Some places it's four lanes. It's congestion. [01:19:47] Speaker C: Yep. [01:19:47] Speaker B: And if you don't plan your trip. [01:19:51] Speaker B: You'Re never going to get what to. You're never going to get to where you're going. We're here in Perth. The congestion from. If there was that third lane. Yes, it will flow quicker. The congestion is probably, you know, 10, 15 minutes. But if they opened the Kwana and went to Safety Bay Road instead of stopping at. [01:20:16] Speaker B: Mortimer Road would add. Because then it will just block up again. [01:20:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:20:21] Speaker B: So the whole thing is, the whole idea is to widen it as far as you can go because then your building, you're building, you're making it wider. You're also making, you're building something into it to say, hey, we don't have to do that for another 10 years. [01:20:40] Speaker A: Let's see, you're future proofing it. You are 10, 15, 20 years. Because you know that Perth is only going to continue to grow. We've got no real limitations for, for land. We're not landlocked in any way. And with the, you know, as fast as the government can release land, they're building houses. There's pressure on the housing system, so that's only going to. [01:21:04] Speaker A: Continue to put pressure on roads, more cars on the roads from greater outlying areas. Like, people aren't. As property prices are increasing, people aren't moving into the city, they're moving further out, which is where the pressures coming from on the freeways and the row highway, Tonkin highway, there's people in those outlying areas from, you know, north, from Alkamos, you know, Ellenbrook, all of those feeder areas coming into the city from South Mandurah, Bunbury, even people drive from Bunbury sometimes into the city. So all of that is adding traffic to the, to the freeway and really if they're going to do it, like I mentioned earlier earlier, they're going to go through the inconvenience of construction, build two extra lanes if they need to and that way they know that they don't have to touch it for another 20 years. [01:21:54] Speaker B: That's right. And you're, you hit the nail on the head future proofing. So only going to Mortimer Road is not going to help. [01:22:02] Speaker A: Not in the, not in the short term, but not in the longer term. [01:22:05] Speaker B: Not in the long term. [01:22:06] Speaker A: The governments need to start thinking more. [01:22:08] Speaker B: Longer term and the, the train, the public transport from Mandurah to the city, there's only eight stations and there's a great number of free car parks available. And you know if you're coming from further south, Hall's Head or Doorsville, I know they're widening the bridges there over the estuary and that's fantastic. And that's, and that's, you know, that's thanks to the West Australian people and they're hard working and also the big hole in the ground of Western Australia is paying for this. [01:22:46] Speaker A: That's right. [01:22:47] Speaker B: Because back east there's no big hole in the ground and they're basically in debt. So. So I would. [01:22:54] Speaker A: Hence the tolls on the, on all the free. [01:22:56] Speaker B: Hence the toll because they can't afford to build roads and the tolls. Yeah. East Link. [01:23:03] Speaker B: East Link to Tullamarine Freeway. Now this new road, this new ring road and things like that, there's no money for it so they've got to put a toll on it and the toll costs money and you're already a rate payer and you're paying your taxes and you have to pay for that. Where in Western Australia you don't have to pay for tolls which is a. Blew me away. [01:23:26] Speaker A: Tell me they is. [01:23:29] Speaker A: Most of the freeways and hot. They're privately owned over there or privately run because they're all like partnerships with the government. [01:23:36] Speaker B: Is that right? Yeah, basically there's the, the western ring road was all free because that was already sort of there and they built it in stages but the Tullamarine Freeway was free until Jeff kenner brought in CityLink. And then what was free Victorians started paying for it and that city link bypassed the city from Flemington Road to the city and that took it to the Westgate Bridge. The roads between. [01:24:12] Speaker B: The Westgate bridge and the M1, they're widening them, they're expanding them because now they're four lanes. Now they're building the underground tunnels which you have to pay. [01:24:26] Speaker B: And Then you've got Eastlink, which is a private, private road which takes you from the. [01:24:34] Speaker B: The, the freeway out of east in Melbourne and takes you all the way to Frankston. But you have to pay. [01:24:40] Speaker A: Yep. [01:24:41] Speaker B: And yes, it's a great run. And yes, there's, it's, it's, it's three lanes, but you have to pay. And what does it cost? It's not cheap, you know, just to go to say, Phillip island. You have to use that. Unless you, you go all the back roads. But then it takes forever. [01:24:58] Speaker A: What's the cost of. [01:25:01] Speaker B: Could be up to $10 a car, a trip. So if you're going to Phillip island, It's, it's like 15 and then it's $15 back. Yeah. So you're looking at $30 upwards. If you're in a commercial car, it's double. [01:25:16] Speaker C: All right. [01:25:18] Speaker B: So, you know, we, we count our lucky stars here in Western Australia that we don't have tolls because. [01:25:26] Speaker B: It'S, it works against, it works against the people. Yep. So, you know, I just could say to the Premier Roger Cook and Anthony Albanese, build it to Safety Pay Road. And I'm sure a lot of people in Rockingham, Kwana and that area would be thankful that it's three lanes because there's always accidents in the morning. Safety Bay Road, Munchedong Road. There's always an accident every morning come six o', clock, 6:00am, you know, I, I, I travel up the, up, up that, up the kwana about 4am, about 4:15, 4:20. [01:26:12] Speaker B: And it takes me 45 minutes to get from Rockingham to the airport. Yep. Or Kenwick. And yeah, it's a good run. In the mornings there's no traffic, but in the afternoons there's, it's congestion and everybody's using the roads at that time of the afternoon. So, you know, I just can implore Roger Cook to, to go to Safety Bay Road, extended to Safety Bay Road and Ru Discoffieldy the Transport, Transport Minister. Yeah, go to Safety Bay road because in 10 years time you're gonna say, oh, we should have done that. But if you, as Joe has said, we need to future proof our roads for our future. So, so that's, that's a, that's a great topic we've, we've spoken about. Now the other massive topic that, that's been bubbling along since the state election is the new circuit at Burswood. Now racing this weekend is a. At Barbagello. Brody Kostecki has put his hand up and he's helping. [01:27:27] Speaker B: He'S helping them build this temporary circuit. Temporary circuits are great, but not all temporary circuits work for the people. Not just the racing people, but the landowners, homeowners, sporting company sporting, sporting clubs, associations. [01:27:49] Speaker B: Where in Albert, like I'll just give you an example. Albert park was a dump. It was a dumping ground for everything. There was a few sporting grounds, there was a football oval there that was run down. And with the Australian Grand Prix they've beautified it. [01:28:07] Speaker B: Burswood is not in that frame. Burz was a great entertainment area. You've got Optus Oval, you've got the, the Cranfield there, you've got the train station going to Optis Oval, which is fantastic and. [01:28:24] Speaker B: But the residents now are up in arms about the temporary circuit and it's more than a temporary circuit. There's all sorts of things happening. It's gonna, there's gonna be an amphitheater and things like that. So what does that mean for the residents? What does that mean for the car enthusiasts? What does that mean for Barbagello? I've read that the V8 supercars. Mr. Warburton has stated that he wants to have a 10 day motorsport festival in Perth. So V8 supercars on the weekend at Burswood and the rest at Barbagallo Raceway. [01:29:05] Speaker B: So it's, it's going to be interesting what comes across. And we're going to have Phil Morley. [01:29:14] Speaker B: He'S the Western Australian motorsport coordinator. Phil's coming on. Know Phil very well. Phil's a great hill climber. [01:29:25] Speaker B: And he's going to talk a little bit about that later on. [01:29:27] Speaker A: So for those not familiar with the track, myself included, so the one at Burswood is proposed. Is it a dedicated track or is it using part of the, of the, is it a street circuit? [01:29:37] Speaker B: It's a street circuit and it's using that Burswood area. [01:29:43] Speaker B: They plan to have other events there, music festivals and things like that. So they're hoping to multi, multi repurpose it. [01:29:55] Speaker B: A lot of the races. [01:30:00] Speaker B: Are for it, a lot of the people aren't for it, you know, so, so we're just, we're just going to see what, what eventuates there. And you know, it's, it's very difficult. [01:30:15] Speaker A: It's only like you say, it's only for 10 or so days once a year. Can't be. You know, if you live in that area you get free access, surely keep you happy or you go, go for a holiday that week there you go. [01:30:27] Speaker B: For a holiday, you know, and then. [01:30:28] Speaker A: Airbnb Your house out while people, while you're away and make a fortune. [01:30:32] Speaker B: Well, that's the, that's what they've done in Albert Park. Yeah, I mean, Albert park, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't a great thing. They've turned it into a massive. Get the people and get the people out. You got to think Albert park. There's trams everywhere in Melbourne. [01:30:51] Speaker A: Getting around Melbourne, sensational. I've been to a Formula One in Albert Park. I went with my, my wife. Hello to Monica, if you're listening. Love you, Monica. And she took me there when, when we were younger and it was amazing to get around Melbourne on the trams. Access in and out. Phenomenal. Perth unfortunately, unfortunately doesn't have that infrastructure as good. So getting in and out of the Burswood was gonna, is, will be a huge headache. Can you imagine? [01:31:17] Speaker B: Yeah. And I suppose, you know, they're, they're. [01:31:20] Speaker C: Actually. [01:31:22] Speaker B: Gonna be working hard. [01:31:26] Speaker B: It's gonna, it's gonna be interesting to see and let's. [01:31:32] Speaker B: Let'S see what the state government V8 supercars. I know Basil Zempeles is not for this race. He's not for the development. It'd be interesting to see what he has to say of, of. Look, he's been in Parliament just recently. [01:31:52] Speaker A: Five minutes, I think he's been five minutes. [01:31:54] Speaker B: And he's talking, he's talking about, you know, I've seen parts of that speech and you know that, those parts of that speech sound like what Save Albert park people said back in the day and you know, the yellow ribbons and stuff like that. But at the end of the day, you know, Burswood Reserve, it's not like the back blocks of Albert Park. And you know, I'm interested to hear and see what Phil has to say and other members and stuff like that. So that's it. We're gonna play some music and then we'll get to our last hour and we'll have a special guest, Mr. Kerry Smith talking in the collectible corner. [01:32:42] Speaker A: The best music from the 60s to today. [01:32:46] Speaker B: IPL Radio. Welcome back to IPL Radio Talking Talk with Darren Chanter and Joe for Faro. And this next. This is our last hour of the day and we're just going to call it Collector's Corner. And on the, on the phone we've got Mr. Kerry Smith, who is a fantastic person, a collector or a store of vintage pedal cars. So welcome aboard. Kerry Smith. [01:33:21] Speaker D: Good day, Darren. How you going, mate? [01:33:24] Speaker B: Yeah, good. Thanks for, thanks for, thanks for dropping us a line this afternoon. And Kerry, tell us about your collection. I know it's, it's, it's wide and varied. So tell us what you've. You've got. [01:33:42] Speaker D: Look, I would call my collection a modest collection, but I have a mixed of cars ranging from a 1922 cyclops awesome. To right up to the 60s. A couple of different brands. Peerless and Jordani and Triang. [01:34:02] Speaker B: That's fantastic. So how did you. How did you get into pedal cars? [01:34:07] Speaker D: Interesting story. Quite a few years ago, I was driving home to waggle and I happened to stop into a. An opportunity shop where I bought a petrol can, an old running board, tin. [01:34:21] Speaker B: Yep. [01:34:22] Speaker D: Then I decided that I would need a couple of signs to complement that. And then I got the idea in my head one day of a pedal car would look great as well. And so I managed to pick up a pedal car, old Cyclops, and. [01:34:43] Speaker D: Rang Fred Hay after I found out who he was. And he supplied me a few parts. Saw what, what, what types of cars. He showed me a bit of his collection as well, and from that moment on, I was hooked. [01:34:57] Speaker B: That's fantastic. So. So what's your latest acquisition of pedal cars? [01:35:06] Speaker D: My latest one, I haven't received it yet, but a good friend of mine, Steve Mac, gave me a tip and I have a 1960 cyclops jeep on the way. [01:35:19] Speaker B: Okay, that's. That's fantastic. So 1960 cyclops jeep, tell us a bit about that car. [01:35:27] Speaker D: Okay, the car's coming down from Sydney. I think it's called a Cyclops Syntropic Jeep. I'm not hugely knowledgeable, still learning the craft, but. [01:35:40] Speaker D: It'S one owner car, original with the original decals and everything. So it was great of Steve to tip me off and to get a car from the original owner is quite a plus. [01:35:52] Speaker B: That's fantastic. So that's your latest. What's your favorite, favorite car that you've got? I know that you've got a number, but everyone's. Every collector's got their favorite. Isn't that correlate correct, Joe? [01:36:07] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:36:09] Speaker D: Oh, gee, that's a tough one. I'm pretty partial to my 22 cyclops being the oldest car in my collection, but I also love the Jordani pedal cars as well. [01:36:22] Speaker B: Yeah, Jordanian pedal cars. Yeah, Jordani's are. [01:36:28] Speaker B: They're worth their weight in gold with Jordani especially. [01:36:32] Speaker B: You know, a Maserati. Maserati is great, but I believe you've got a Ferrari. [01:36:39] Speaker A: I've got to ask guys for those. I mean, I can tell that you guys are in the scene with pedal cars. But are we talking kids pedal cars here? Are we talking competition pedal cars? What, what type of pedal cars are they? [01:36:52] Speaker B: We're talking about kids pedal cars. Yeah. [01:36:55] Speaker A: So we thought Maserati and Ferrari made kids pedal cars. [01:36:58] Speaker B: Jordani made. Jordan is an Italian company, they were in Bologna and they made children's pedal cars from the 50s, 60s, 70s up until the 80s. They turned them into plastic cars, but the original ones were metal. Yeah, so we're talking about adult men love pedal cars for someone nostalgia for some unknown reason, adult men and women love pedal cars. [01:37:30] Speaker A: What's the attraction? What's the lure? What, what is it about them? Is it just the nostalgia, the fact that they were, had survived the passage of time? I mean, I've seen enough shows like, you know, on the Antiques Road. Well, the, the, the ones that, who are the guys on the American ones that go around? [01:37:47] Speaker B: American pickers? [01:37:48] Speaker A: American pickers. You know, they're, whenever they see a pedal car, mate, they go, they go nuts. So there's obviously something about them, isn't there? [01:37:54] Speaker B: Yeah, look, it's, it's great. It's, it's, they are, they are fantastic. I mean I, my, my, my past life, I was a racer. So what happened with me was I, I built my XP with my dad. We built the XP hard top in the garage. I've had it for 35 years. [01:38:16] Speaker B: I got bored with the early Falcon scene. I was still involved, but I wasn't as involved as I was and I decided I wanted to go car racing. So I didn't have a race car, so I raced my xp, I hill climbed it, I raced it at Calder Park Circuit racing. Yeah, well, so an XP 252v auto. And then I, I, we built the Nola Holden and then the Formula 3 car and all that sort of stuff. And then dad retired, I wasn't racing. I said, what's, what, what, what are we going to do? And I, and I bought a pedal car. Just the same part of my collection. Yeah, it was a pedal car. So then one pedal car led to another. [01:39:01] Speaker A: But do you buy them like Kerry, do you buy them to restore or is it, is it to put on show or what, what do you do with them? Do you buy them like if. [01:39:11] Speaker A: Sorry, yeah. No. [01:39:13] Speaker D: What, what's, no, it's a bit of a mixture of both. If you can find them in a ritual condition, complete, that's the most desirable in my opinion. But some people like them restored. What I like to do is not to do a full restoration but just to try and piece them back together to their original condition as close as possible, and maintain the character and the integrity of the car. [01:39:38] Speaker B: Yep. [01:39:39] Speaker A: And are they. Is there big money involved in when these things change hands? [01:39:44] Speaker B: Are they. [01:39:44] Speaker A: I mean, I guess the rarity of them. [01:39:47] Speaker A: Varies as well. [01:39:49] Speaker D: Oh, absolutely. Like, I've heard of cars going for thousands upon thousands of dollars and some can go for as little as $50. But, you know, it's one of those things, as any collector knows all about individual taste and what you like, and it's also about shared passion that we all have about them. [01:40:10] Speaker A: And were they made in Australia back in the 50s and 60s? Was there like the Hills brand or any particular brand that was made here? [01:40:19] Speaker D: To my knowledge, the mate. There's a lot of different brands. I'm still discovering that. When I first started, I didn't realize I'd only heard of Cyclops cars and they. Cyclops Company, I believe, started out in 1913 and started producing pedal cars around about 19, 17, 18 in Australia. That's correct, yes. [01:40:43] Speaker A: Yep. So it's just the Australian ones that you. That you collect, or they come from overseas. America, I guess. Ebay's everyone's biggest enemy, isn't it? Once you get on ebay, you start buying stuff from all around the world. [01:40:56] Speaker D: Yeah, look, I haven't actually imported any from overseas or mine have been sourced locally through ebay, swap meets and through other collectors. But ebay is a wonderful source when you need parts and things like that. So you get on ebay and have a look. And. [01:41:17] Speaker D: I've tried ebay, Italy and UK and all that sort of stuff, and you're looking for little things that yours might be missing, like things when. Through normal use, you know, headlights, stuff that gets damaged through use. So, you know, basically I. I just look for replacement parts. [01:41:34] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. It's. It's an awesome. It's another awesome hobby. I mean, you know, I. I don't buy complete cars like Kerry. I'm just a nut. And dad and I. [01:41:50] Speaker A: And you buy stuff that you want to fix up. [01:41:54] Speaker B: I buy wrecks. I buy wrecks that are. [01:41:58] Speaker B: Unrecognizable. Yeah. When I first met Kerry, I was looking for a wizard. I was looking. Looking for a wizard racer. And I'd missed a couple at auctions and Kerry put me onto a gentleman who had a wizard racer, and the wizard racer had more hits than Elvis. [01:42:20] Speaker A: So what's a wizard race? [01:42:21] Speaker B: Is it. [01:42:22] Speaker A: Is it a what? What? [01:42:24] Speaker B: So a wizard. [01:42:25] Speaker A: Is it based on a. Is it modeled off a bit of A full size car. [01:42:29] Speaker B: It's not basic, it's not modeled off anything. But basically a wizard was made. [01:42:34] Speaker A: But we're still talking to kids toys. [01:42:36] Speaker B: Kids toys. We're talking kids cars. Right. A wizard was made in between 1950, 1948 and 52 in South Australia. A guy made wizard races. And Wizard. The wizard racer was named after a guy called Wizard Smith who won the Alpine Rally three times in the 1920s. Yeah. Wizard Smith went on to. [01:43:04] Speaker B: Drive the Anzac, which was a land speed record car. And the Wizard Smith story about land speed record cars Pre World War II is amazing. [01:43:19] Speaker B: Wizard Smith was in Sydney. They built. So basically the wizard was named after Wizard Smith. Yeah. Right. But it's not a collectible car, but it's a rare car. [01:43:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:43:29] Speaker B: Okay. Because it was, there was a couple of sizes and my, the car that Kerry put me onto was. Had more hits than Elvis. [01:43:39] Speaker A: So I have to ask guys, did you guys have pedal cars when you were kids or is this fulfilling some lost or missed. Missed childhood. [01:43:48] Speaker A: Desire or dream or something? [01:43:50] Speaker B: Whatever. [01:43:51] Speaker A: Did you have pedal cars as kids? [01:43:52] Speaker B: I had a pilgrim. [01:43:55] Speaker B: And insane and. [01:43:57] Speaker D: I had a Cyclops tipper. [01:43:58] Speaker A: Oh, you did? [01:43:59] Speaker D: That was shared between me and my cousin. [01:44:01] Speaker A: Okay. [01:44:01] Speaker B: And I had a pilgrim and we'll get to a pilgrim another time. [01:44:05] Speaker A: Do you know what happened to yours, Kerry? Did you ever track the history of that or did it get lost? Did you just disappear? [01:44:10] Speaker D: No, it's one of those things that got lost in time and you know, would have, would have been fabulous to sort of been able to keep it. But yeah, it just got lost. Have you ever seen one? You know, I didn't re. Rekindle the passion, you know, donkeys years later. [01:44:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:44:26] Speaker A: Okay. [01:44:27] Speaker B: Yeah. So, you know, I mean, and I had a pilgrim and you know, I got bashed, I got painted in house paint. Well, you know, as a child I got bashed and painted in house paint and this and that and things in life happen and you know, you forget about. It's like buying your first dragster. [01:44:45] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:44:45] Speaker A: It's just like the stuff today. Who, who would know back then the value of things today? [01:44:49] Speaker B: You know, so, so yeah, so the pedal car is, is wheel toys. Yeah. There's a, there's a site, there's a couple of great clubs in Australia that, that promote that sort of stuff and you know, so pedal cars and, and stuff like that. Do you. The, the Jordan, probably the most fanciest cars. [01:45:17] Speaker B: Later on they're modeled on. [01:45:19] Speaker A: Are they styled on like the Ferraris and. [01:45:22] Speaker B: Yeah, they're Styled on like a Ferrari, a Maserati of the day. The Jordanis were really, they were pricey and they were flash and one of them all metal. All metal, yep. I've got a. A Jordani Auto Sprint it that we restored from a shell. We've got all the parts from Italy. Yeah. It's got a false, it's got a, an aluminium engine, like a false engine that sits in the middle. Yeah. Press metal. It's actually diecast. Yeah. And it weighs a ton. Yeah. [01:45:54] Speaker A: Right. [01:45:55] Speaker B: We get a lot of parts from Italy for those cars. [01:45:59] Speaker B: And you know, they're probably. [01:46:03] Speaker B: A good looking car. [01:46:04] Speaker A: So where do you display them? Like Terry, where do you display yours? You. You're in your house or in the shed. [01:46:11] Speaker D: Yeah, I do, I do. I, I live in my collection. You got grandkids, gives me great pleasure. So, you know, just, I'm just about tripping over the things but, you know, it's something for me that it just brings a smile to my place, my face and I really enjoy it. [01:46:29] Speaker C: You know. [01:46:29] Speaker D: I met Darren through, through collecting pedal cars when he was talking about his wizard. I remember when I first started out talking to a guy in Melbourne and he sent me a heap of photos and Darren, I spotted an ad that he'd put it put out previously that he'd like to see if he could get one. And as a collector. [01:46:54] Speaker D: This guy sent me a heap of photos and in amongst them was the crumpled body of the wizard. [01:47:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Wow. [01:47:01] Speaker D: So I immediately thought, well, as a collector, you know, sometimes blokes can look for years and years to find what they want. And I understand that because, you know, it does take time to find what you want or find parts. So I immediately contacted Darren and sent him some pictures and that's how we met. [01:47:22] Speaker A: Fantastic. Now is there little people in your life, Kerry, got grandkids? [01:47:27] Speaker D: No. No. [01:47:28] Speaker A: Oh, thank God. Thank God. Otherwise to keep them out of it. [01:47:32] Speaker D: Lots of nephews and nieces and all that sort of thing though when they. [01:47:35] Speaker A: Come over, do they. You have to. You have to. Are they on off limits, the cars? [01:47:39] Speaker D: Oh, they're all grown up now. So we're looking at their kids now. [01:47:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:44] Speaker D: So yeah, no, if, if quite happy to let them be used, you know, that's. [01:47:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:47:52] Speaker D: You know, not all of them, of course, you know, you better ones, you know, I've got some made out of wooden body ones so you know to. You don't want to risk damaging them, but quite happy for them to jump on the old metal ones if they like and take Them for a spin. [01:48:10] Speaker A: Fantastic. [01:48:11] Speaker D: And hopefully that'll give them great memories for when they grow up and it might encourage a few of them to actually start collecting themselves. [01:48:20] Speaker A: Yeah, great. [01:48:21] Speaker B: It's a, it's a, it's an awesome hobby. Now we've got signs, Kerry, you're, you're a, you're a, you're a collector of signs and, and toys. Tell us about your signs. [01:48:32] Speaker D: Got a modest collection. [01:48:33] Speaker C: Yes. [01:48:35] Speaker B: So tell us about the signs that you have and how did you acquire them. And, and you, you've, you've got a living collection in your house. [01:48:45] Speaker C: That's correct. [01:48:47] Speaker B: And you know, the signs. What, what, what brands and what colors and, and what's the history of your signs? [01:48:57] Speaker D: Okay, well, basically, like I said, way back, a few years back, I picked up an oil can and the first sign I got actually was I bought from a guy in Western Australia. It was an old Shell postman sign from the 20s. [01:49:14] Speaker D: Pretty busted up and rusty, but I don't mind them that way. And then you sort of get to thinking, well, one might, you might need a bit more. And then it still takes off. It's a bit of a disease, but basically covered most oil companies. And I also have old shop signs as well, like, you know, Vincent's powders, ice cream signs, chewy gum signs, all that sort of thing. [01:49:42] Speaker D: Multitude of colors. They all look great on display in my opinion, and I enjoy it. It's a great hobby as far as finding them. Garage sales, swap meets, Internet, various sites that auction or sell signs and word of mouth just about any way you can. You've got to be a part detective and, and you've got to be able to network as well. [01:50:11] Speaker B: Yeah, it's an, it's an awesome. [01:50:13] Speaker D: I think that's the thrill of it. The thrill of the hunt, really. [01:50:16] Speaker B: It is the thrill of the hunt. I mean, I've got, I've, I haven't got a great deal of signs hanging up. [01:50:27] Speaker B: I've sort of. Yeah, the collection's a bit, not all over the place place, but it sort of blends into each other. Motorsport and Ford and stuff like that. And I got my pedal cars and you know, the pedal, it gives, it gives people a sense of purpose for their mental health. And ipl, we're all about, you know, our mental health. And, you know, Dad's been great because Dad's retired. [01:50:55] Speaker B: And it gives mum time out of dad's mind so he can go to the garage and he's got his little workshop, he's got his milling machine, he's lathe. He's all these bits and pieces. And he works on pedal cars because we don't have a right or we've got a race car. The race cars in the middle of their workshop. But he's working on A. A 1952. Brooklyn's trying racer for me at the moment. Which fantastic. A wa. Car. Wow. And I was. [01:51:27] Speaker A: They got sent back to mel. Over to Melbourne. [01:51:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Got sent. It's. It's a weird. That's another weird story because I tried to buy that car six years ago. A guy in western Australia had it, wouldn't ship it to me. Another great friend of ours, Mr. Roger Hughes. [01:51:46] Speaker B: He purchased the car. And the intention of Roger was to do it up. Roger put it up on his loft. On his loft. And it sat there and Roger decided to sell the car. [01:52:02] Speaker B: Five years later, I purchased the car. It didn't come with wheels or anything like that. So as Kerry said. Yeah, you got your contacts around the world and you start ringing. And I rang everybody. Body. Yep. [01:52:16] Speaker A: And hard to find parts for this. [01:52:18] Speaker B: These wheels were the hardest. They're the hardest thing to get. Yeah. The car was complete. Bar wheels. [01:52:24] Speaker A: Did it have wheels on it when the other guy bought it? [01:52:26] Speaker B: No, no, Roger didn't have wheels on it. He did manage to find one wheel. [01:52:33] Speaker B: And he didn't even know he had that because he forgot about it so long. And I found three wheels and four hubcaps in Brisbane. Yeah. And that's all I needed. The car was complete. Needed a lot of work because it'd been in a fire. [01:52:50] Speaker B: And it was. But it. It was complete. It wasn't rusted, but it had been a fire. Yep. And I was lucky enough to purchase it. Wow. And. [01:53:02] Speaker B: This was a metal body. One full metal body. 1952. Trying Brooklyn's return, which Kerry's got. Kerry's got a. An original one out of England also. Oh, wow. And I look at it as a. I'm bringing something to life and I pick the colors. And dad's cheap on the labor and it gives him something to do. So it's for his mental health that he's retired. And instead of sitting down watching tv. [01:53:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:53:27] Speaker B: He's working in his workshop and he's happy and he sorts out all the problems and whatever. [01:53:34] Speaker A: Very important. [01:53:35] Speaker B: So it's very important for your mental health. [01:53:36] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:53:37] Speaker B: And you know, he. He does a great job. And talking about ebay and buying cars. [01:53:44] Speaker B: I've purchased a moral. Like a moralagiranu Honda, which is a French pedal car made by Morale in France in the 60s. And we're restoring that also. And that's, that's an ebay purchase. [01:53:59] Speaker B: That had no wheels, that had no steering wheel. It was pretty banged up. And Kerry said to me, oh, you know, where are you going to get one of those from? And I go, well, what do you think? He goes, I'll just buy it. You'll work it out. Where am I gonna get the wheels from? So I started ringing around the world and our great friend in Italy, Mimo, he had. He had a steering wheel and four spinners, four spinner hubcaps. So I said, mate, I'll take them. And then I found another guy in Austria, Vienna, he had four wheels. So I bought four wheels from him. [01:54:41] Speaker A: You end up with a complete car. [01:54:43] Speaker B: I've got a complete car. And. [01:54:46] Speaker B: By the. The funny thing is we're all going back home for Easter. And dad said to me, guys, the package has arrived. Well, oh, yeah, which package? And then the doorbell rang and the other package arrived from. One arrived from Italy and one arrived from same day. The same day, the same time. You've got wheels and you've got a steering wheel. I said, oh, that's the car that's complete. Yeah, so put them on and send me a photo. Yeah, and it was great. And you know, probably the moralize. There's not many in Australia. [01:55:21] Speaker B: And that was an ebay purchase. But, you know, I mean, it all depends. There's not many of these fantastic cars around on the ground and they're very scarce collectors or people who have them in their sheds, workshops or whatever. So. Yeah, so I've got to thank Kerry and, you know, Rog for, For helping me out and, you know, we help each other out with parts. [01:55:49] Speaker A: So do you have a. You have a stash of parts as well that people contact you for? [01:55:54] Speaker B: Yeah, like next, next Sunday, our. Our guest of the week is Mr. Fred Hay from the. He's the president of the Australian Pedal Car Club. And we're having Fred. I'm having Fred on next Sunday. Sunday. And Fred's Mr. Pedal Car Panels. Yeah, and he makes a lot of stuff. He's a very talented sheet metal worker, as Kerry would. He goes there all the time. See, Fred. [01:56:21] Speaker B: I'm grateful to have metal magician. He's a metal magician. He's. He makes bodies. [01:56:25] Speaker A: So do these things have opening doors and bonnets and that or they all pressed into one, one piece? [01:56:32] Speaker D: No, no, some do. I have a couple of older train cars with opening doors and headlights and, you know, dash and all that sort of thing. Like basically like a real, you know, pneumatic tires. Yeah, basically like a real car. [01:56:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:56:46] Speaker A: Okay. So when the need arrives and horn. [01:56:49] Speaker D: On it and all that sort of stuff. [01:56:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So, you know, like some of the cars that Kerry's got, like the wooden early triangle are made out of wood and they are exquisite. They're not, you know, they're not showroom condition. But for a car that's been around 90 years, a, a kid's toy that's been around 90 years is, is unbelievable. Yeah. Wow. And the Jordanis. [01:57:18] Speaker B: The auto Sprint, they had, you know, they had an engine and a bonnet, no doors, but you know, some of them had working lights. The, the squadrons had working lights that just like battery. [01:57:34] Speaker B: Lights. Yeah. And later on in the program we'll get Bob Gunther on out of America and Bob's got one of the most awesome pedal car collections, American pedal cars that you'll ever see. Those cars are non existent. They're from the 1900s and he's a, he's an awesome collector, Bob. [01:57:54] Speaker B: And you know, Fred makes a lot of parts. Kerry and I make a fair bit of parts. We get a lot of stuff. I found a 3D printer in Melbourne who prints in aluminium and metal. Yep. And we've had plastic, chrome, there's all sorts of things. And you know, I mean it was just. [01:58:18] Speaker A: It's almost like the restoring a real car. [01:58:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:58:21] Speaker A: Challenges that you go through with sourcing parts and it's supplies and it's exactly the same. Getting things chromed especially. [01:58:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Chromed, painted. You know, some of the things that we've done, you know, with chrome, plastic. [01:58:36] Speaker B: There was one place in Melbourne that did it and that family. Now, you know, the business is evolving. It may not be open for much longer, but there's very few chrome is left in Melbourne and there's even fewer left in Perth. [01:58:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Chroming's a. Not to go off track but chroming is definitely an industry which has suffered from, you know, back in the day they used a lot of chemicals that you wouldn't dare use today. Which obviously. [01:59:05] Speaker A: Means that you can't get the same outcome these days that you did back then. [01:59:08] Speaker B: Yeah. And you know, I can name. There was 10. Chrome is in the northern suburbs of Melbourne and now there's one. Yeah. [01:59:17] Speaker A: Same as Perth. I think there's only as recently as last year one of the ones in Maddington closed down. So there's really only. There's only two. Two left in. [01:59:26] Speaker B: So. So yeah. And, and Kerry tell us about the toy collection you got like the boomerous and stuff like that. [01:59:35] Speaker D: Look, Darren, I only have a small collection and I'll, you know, just pick them up at swap meets and stuff when I can find them. But yeah, I probably have about a dozen boomerang toys from the 1950s, maybe late 40s, from ranging from small boomerang tip trucks to fully operational forklift with the driver. A couple other things. I've got a night. An early obscure toy that I picked up on ebay called Witanko. It was a company that was out of England and operated for roughly 10 years in the 1920s. And so I was fortunate enough to find one of them. And yeah, so, you know, very modest toy collection. And I did manage to find. And this was another marketplace find off the web. Very obscure. One is a 1960 cyclops cannon. [02:00:31] Speaker D: Which is quite large. The cannon itself would be about 2 foot 6 long and about. [02:00:38] Speaker D: I don't know. [02:00:39] Speaker A: We're talking about a canon. [02:00:42] Speaker B: A cannon. Yeah. [02:00:43] Speaker D: Yes. I can see why they only released it probably for a year because it actually fires cannonballs. [02:00:49] Speaker A: No kidding. [02:00:49] Speaker D: Like the real McCoy. It's got a ram on it so you can ram the string down and fire it. And. [02:00:54] Speaker A: And this was. This was sold as a kid's toy. [02:00:56] Speaker B: This was sold as a kids toy by. By Cyclops. [02:00:59] Speaker A: And was it attached to one of their other pedal cars or toys? Or is it sold as a separate. [02:01:04] Speaker B: Just sold as a separate entity. [02:01:06] Speaker D: Wow. [02:01:06] Speaker B: They made all sorts of stuff. [02:01:07] Speaker D: Yeah, I actually bought it off the original owner who had it from a child. [02:01:12] Speaker A: That's incredible, eh? [02:01:13] Speaker B: So some of it. Yeah. [02:01:14] Speaker D: And it was just. I saw a tag on it that said Cyclops. So little light bulb went off. I. I was totally unaware that they made these things and I, I took a chance and I bought it and was quite amazed when it got here. [02:01:28] Speaker A: And you'd never seen one before. This was. [02:01:30] Speaker D: This was never the only one I've ever seen. [02:01:33] Speaker A: Incredible. [02:01:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it's probably. It's the only one that I've ever seen and a lot of the collectors that we know personally have never seen one. Wow. There was a collector who had a photo one in a catalog and Chris Bull, he's another collector. He's going to come on board. [02:01:55] Speaker B: As. As a guest. Chris is gonna. His aim is to. To build a museum, toy museum and jewelry. So he's coming on and that's awesome. Kerry, look, much appreciated you coming on today. [02:02:10] Speaker D: My pleasure, Darren. And I wish you huge success on your show and I'm sure It will be and yeah glad I could help out and it's all good mate from this end. [02:02:21] Speaker A: Great to chat with you Kerry. That's, that's fantastic. [02:02:23] Speaker D: I love thank you very much and you know it's been a pleasure and different experience for myself but I'll be tuning in regularly now and to listen in and and listen to your talks. [02:02:37] Speaker B: Thank you Kerry. And we're going to some music now and Kerry's given us some songs and we're going to play them. So thank you. Kerry Smith on Collectibles Corner on IPL Radio Talking talk on a Sunday afternoon with Darren Chanter. [02:02:54] Speaker A: The best music from the 60s to. [02:02:57] Speaker B: Today IPL radio well that was Elvis. Elvis the American trilogy with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. Another, another fantastic song by Elvis and we've had the Beatles and get back so that's another, another fantastic four songs and we're coming to the end of the program but we've got a couple of shout outs and we've had a few on the talk back line. Yep. And I've got to thank Peter Dodds. [02:03:36] Speaker A: Pete Dodds. Thanks for your kind message mate. Glad to hear you're listening. I hope you enjoyed the program with Darren and myself today. [02:03:42] Speaker B: Thanks mate. It's, it's great to and Peter's got a fantastic car, Roger Hughes. Roger's been listing down at Wangara and he's another one that's going to come on the program. He's a great, another great collector. [02:03:58] Speaker B: Marco Chanter in Yay my son. Thanks mate for listing. Appreciate it. [02:04:06] Speaker A: Good to hear. I know Rob, Rob Perfumi. He sent the thumbs up on the message earlier as well. So he's listening. Hope he's enjoyed it as well. [02:04:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Aaron Scott. [02:04:14] Speaker C: Aaron. [02:04:15] Speaker B: Yep. They've all been listening. A lot of the guys in Tasmania from Adrian Wilson's crew for the 24th Early Falcon Nationals have been listing a lot of the the guys in Melbourne. Stan Gibson con de los Santos from the early Falcon Car Club. That crew they've all been listing the guys in New South Wales. Johnny Longworth has been listening up in Newcastle. Hey Johnny, how are you? [02:04:40] Speaker A: G' day John. Hope you're well. [02:04:44] Speaker B: And and Tracy Jacobs, old Trace, an old friend of mine from the early Falcon Car Club of Victoria. She's been listening in country New South Wales. A lot of the pedal car guys around the country have been listing so thanks for your support team and don't forget next weekend we've got Fred Hay on the program. [02:05:06] Speaker B: To talk about the Australian Pedal Car Club and. [02:05:12] Speaker B: And all all the things that Fred makes. Pedal car. Mr. Pedal car panels himself. I believe we're going to have Corey Horta from Gippsland in South East Victoria talking about speedway in the Rosedale 100, which was today. It's a, it's a, it's a long weekend in Australia. It's, it's a long weekend in Victoria and New South Wales this weekend for the King's birthday. We had the King's birthday earlier in the week here in Western Australia which was a. [02:05:47] Speaker B: It rained on, it always rains on the King's birthday in Western Australia. [02:05:51] Speaker A: Yeah, rain last weekend. [02:05:52] Speaker B: So, yeah, so we've, we've got that and we've got another couple of collectors coming on. [02:05:59] Speaker B: And we thank you very much for, for listening tonight. And you know, it was great, it was great. Acknowledgment from everybody's listening. Also Anthony Martin from City Fresh Fruit Wholesalers in Melbourne. Chris Toronto in Geelong. There's a, there's so many people who have, who have text and, and sent messages. So thank you very much, everybody. Thank you very much for, to Joe, for Joe, for Faro and his son for coming in this afternoon. [02:06:35] Speaker A: Thanks for having us, Darren. [02:06:36] Speaker B: It's been a pleasure and spending some time and you know, the hour turned into three hours. [02:06:41] Speaker A: Yeah, couldn't get rid of me. It was great. [02:06:43] Speaker B: I couldn't get rid of Joe. So that's, that's good. So we're doing something right here. I've got to thank also. [02:06:51] Speaker B: Claudia from from Wicked Walls in Rockingham. Cloudy has made some stickers and some bits and pieces. So when, when our guests, special guests come in, we'll give them a talking talk sticker for their, for their car. So thank you very much, Claudia and we'll catch up with you this week. [02:07:12] Speaker B: And everybody else that's listened to the first episode of Talking Talk by Darren Chanter. It's been a, it's been a, a whirlwind to get here. I've got to thank Tristan Reddick and the team at IPL Radio here in Rockingham for their support in allowing me to, to come in on a Sunday afternoon to talk about just cars and motoring and what, what, what it means to you, the enthusiast, local issues and you know, it's, it's great to, to have this medium for the car club. So if you've got a car club, reach out, we'll have a chat, come on board, be interviewed, play some music and tell us about you and your car because IPL is all about mental health and how we deal with things. And, you know, your car is your passion, your joy. And when you've got your passion and your joy. [02:08:16] Speaker B: The issues don't seem so great. So, you know, we're just thankful for the, for the medium of radio and it's, it's worldwide. IPL is on the iHeart digital network. [02:08:31] Speaker B: And, you know, we, we thank you for, for joining me in and, and having a great time. And, you know, I've, I've thoroughly enjoyed this afternoon. I was very, I was very nervous this morning. [02:08:45] Speaker B: About where we're going and how it's going to be received. And I can't thank, I can't thank everybody enough. And we've got one last song for the day, and all those guys and girls working on your cars, thank you very much. Signing off, Darren Shanter talking talk on IPL Radio, Rockingham.